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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: Questions for SRians |
| Date | 2016-05-26 09:00 -0500 |
| Organization | Aioe.org NNTP Server |
| Message-ID | <ni6vil$12fh$3@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink) |
| References | (10 earlier) <bb558626-1ce4-4f0e-b4b3-400cf523bab2@googlegroups.com> <ni4e5t$o4r$3@pcls7.std.com> <a49f1026-669e-4c6c-8aff-e47293760049@googlegroups.com> <ni54fo$ofn$1@gioia.aioe.org> <df083d95-83af-4baf-9396-a1bb883821d4@googlegroups.com> |
On 5/26/2016 7:14 AM, kenseto wrote: > On Wednesday, May 25, 2016 at 5:12:28 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> On 5/25/2016 3:44 PM, kenseto wrote: >>> On Wednesday, May 25, 2016 at 10:52:19 AM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote: >>>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> writes: >>>> >>>>> The different odometer readings would be due to the different speeds. >>>> >>>> Ken, odometers measure distance, not speed. >>>> The odometers of all cars following a particular path will read the same, >>>> no matter what their speed. >>> >>> We were talking about two different paths and the cars arrive in NY simultaneously. >>> >> >> Ken, Ken, Ken. >> >> We have a scenario where you have a starting location and an ending >> location, with an odometer reading for the trip. There is one hypothesis >> (A) that says the reading will depend on the speed. There is another >> hypothesis (B) that says the reading will not depend on the speed but it >> does depend on path. So you want to devise a test to see which >> hypothesis is right. This is what is called science. > > If two cars depart from Chicago simultaneously and arrive at NY simultaneously the > difference in odometer readings is due to their difference in speeds and difference > in path-lengths. You don't know that. You have to TEST it with experiment. That's what is called science. You make a test, changing only ONE of the variables, not both, to determine which one the odometer depends on. > > >> >> One way to test hypothesis A is to arrange a trip between the two >> locations, where the ONLY variable you change is the speed. In this >> case, you travel the same route twice, with different speeds, and see if >> the odometer changes. >> >> One way to test hypothesis B is to arrange a trip between the two >> locations, where the ONLY variable you change is the path. In this case, >> you travel different routes, with the speed the same, and see if the >> odometer changes. >> >> Doing an experiment where you change BOTH the route and the speed >> doesn't tell you which variable the odometer reading depends on. It >> would be a poorly designed experiment, which any 7th grader would tell you. >> >> -- >> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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Questions for SRians kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-21 14:38 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-21 20:56 -0500
Re: Questions for SRians JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-05-22 10:54 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-23 09:35 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-24 08:40 -0500
Re: Questions for SRians kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-24 07:21 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-24 09:30 -0500
Re: Questions for SRians kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-24 07:28 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-24 09:54 -0500
Re: Questions for SRians moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-24 16:55 +0000
Re: Questions for SRians Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-24 13:55 -0500
Re: Questions for SRians Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-24 14:59 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-05-24 09:19 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-24 12:14 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-24 14:18 -0500
Re: Questions for SRians kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-25 06:50 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-25 09:40 -0500
Re: Questions for SRians rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-05-24 13:00 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-25 06:40 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-25 08:46 -0500
Re: Questions for SRians kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-25 07:06 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-25 14:51 +0000
Re: Questions for SRians kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-25 13:44 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-05-25 14:05 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-26 04:51 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-05-26 07:29 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-26 08:33 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-05-26 08:53 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-26 09:23 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-26 11:56 -0500
Re: Questions for SRians rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-05-26 13:01 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-25 16:12 -0500
Re: Questions for SRians kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-26 05:14 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-26 09:00 -0500
Re: Questions for SRians moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-25 22:45 +0000
Re: Questions for SRians kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-26 06:16 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-26 09:23 -0500
Re: Questions for SRians kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-26 08:19 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-26 10:25 -0500
Re: Questions for SRians kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-26 09:19 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-05-26 12:59 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-26 14:40 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-05-26 14:59 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-26 14:43 +0000
Re: Questions for SRians kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-26 08:10 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-05-26 08:21 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-26 16:26 +0000
Re: Questions for SRians "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-26 09:42 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-26 11:57 -0500
Re: Questions for SRians benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-26 13:28 -0400
Re: Questions for SRians Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-26 13:33 -0500
Re: Questions for SRians kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-26 14:16 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-26 16:54 -0500
Re: Questions for SRians moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-26 17:36 +0000
Re: Questions for SRians RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-27 10:50 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-27 14:48 -0500
Re: Questions for SRians RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-27 14:51 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-27 17:03 -0500
Re: Questions for SRians kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-26 13:53 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-05-26 14:06 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-26 14:57 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-27 02:46 +0000
Re: Questions for SRians RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-26 10:11 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-27 11:17 -0500
Re: Questions for SRians RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-28 16:11 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-05-25 08:22 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-25 08:46 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-05-25 09:15 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-25 13:35 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-05-25 14:02 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-25 11:35 -0500
Re: Questions for SRians Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-25 11:41 -0500
Re: Questions for SRians kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-25 08:59 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2016-05-25 09:20 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-25 21:48 -0500
Re: Questions for SRians kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-26 06:09 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians wugi <brol@brol.be> - 2016-05-25 00:04 +0200
Re: Questions for SRians Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-05-24 16:47 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-27 12:03 -0500
Re: Questions for SRians Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-05-29 14:34 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-29 22:04 -0500
Re: Questions for SRians Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-05-29 22:26 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-06-03 10:42 -0500
Re: Questions for SRians Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2016-05-22 14:20 +0200
Re: Questions for SRians kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-05-23 08:37 -0700
Re: Questions for SRians Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2016-05-23 18:20 +0200
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