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Re: Editing PDF files

From "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: Editing PDF files
Date 2026-10-01 13:05 +0200
Message-ID <ni6t4dFpqdvU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References <osftomx8qd.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <119i2sr$3tfqd$1@dont-email.me>

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On 2026-09-30 06:23, Paul wrote:
> On Tue, 9/29/2026 3:24 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> A friend (a teacher) has a problem with PDF files.
>>
>> Management sends her files in PDF format which she is supposed to edit and fill with names and data and send back. I asked chatgpt and Word can directly edit PDF files, with some limitations. I don't have word (nor she unless she pays it herlself), so I can't try myself. Management does not supply the employees with software nor laptops. Some cheek.
>>
>> The Libre Office method is open in LO Draw, select the text, and copy to a new LO Writer document. But each line is separate, text doesn't flow.
>>
>> I wonder if there is a better or easier method.
>>
> 
> Apparently Firefox browser can fill a form.pdf .

It does.

It even has some script support.

> 
> Adobe Acrobat Reader DC, "in theory", can fill out a
> form, but it is a bloated whale of a thing with brokenness
> at the moment. They're too busy breaking it, to be interested
> in their users. I no longer have that installed on C: here,
> I gave up on it. Too much evil.
> 

Right. My feelings too.

> Via version numbers, a recently created form.pdf would
> not be able to be opened by things like Acrobat Reader 9,
> so you cannot rely on older versions of a thing, to get
> around the Adobe Reader DC mess.
> 
> I can't even find a program to "classify" the files. The
> Linux file command, treats them all the same, by just
> sniffing the PDF string at the top of the file, rather than
> looking inside the file. This means I can't scan my disk for
> samples of form.pdf type files.
> 

maybe pdfinfo?

cer@Laicolasse:~> pdfinfo sample.pdf
Creator:         Mozilla Firefox 140.13.0
Producer:        cairo 1.18.0 (https://cairographics.org)
CreationDate:    Fri Aug 28 18:02:33 2026 CEST
Custom Metadata: no
Metadata Stream: no
Tagged:          no
UserProperties:  no
Suspects:        no
Form:            none
JavaScript:      no
Pages:           9
Encrypted:       no
Page size:       596 x 842 pts (A4)
Page rot:        0
File size:       4790877 bytes
Optimized:       no
PDF version:     1.7
cer@Laicolasse:~>


> Some documents need the Javascript interpreter in Acrobat Reader
> to be turned on. This applies to things like government forms
> that have a "sanitizing" feature for actively checking what
> you enter in a box, and complaining about the format you enter.

Yes, i have seen those. I hope they are not using those.

> 
> And it goes downhill from there. Lots of tools only handle
> plain PDFs and not the other types.
> 
>     Paul


-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.

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Editing PDF files "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-29 21:24 +0200
  Re: Editing PDF files "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 20:45 +0100
    Re: Editing PDF files knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2026-09-29 17:13 -0400
    Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:43 +0200
  Re: Editing PDF files T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 12:49 -0700
    Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-30 12:21 +0200
      Re: Editing PDF files "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 13:20 +0100
        Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:44 +0200
      Re: Editing PDF files T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 12:07 -0700
        Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:46 +0200
          Re: Editing PDF files "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 18:10 +0100
            Re: Editing PDF files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-01 13:35 -0400
            Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 20:34 +0200
              Re: Editing PDF files Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-02 06:07 -1100
                Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-02 19:49 +0200
                Re: Editing PDF files Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-02 08:24 -1100
                Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-02 21:59 +0200
                Re: Editing PDF files Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-02 20:11 -0400
          Re: Editing PDF files T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 11:46 -0700
            Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 21:39 +0200
              Re: Editing PDF files T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:18 -0700
  Re: Editing PDF files PDF Files <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 21:05 +0100
  Re: Editing PDF files Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> - 2026-09-29 18:26 -0400
    Re: Editing PDF files T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 16:51 -0700
      Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:48 +0200
        Re: Editing PDF files T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 11:47 -0700
          Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 21:40 +0200
            Re: Editing PDF files T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:19 -0700
    Re: Editing PDF files "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 01:27 +0100
      Re: Editing PDF files T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 20:56 -0700
        Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:50 +0200
      Re: Editing PDF files "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 00:34 -0400
  Re: Editing PDF files "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 20:15 -0400
    Re: Editing PDF files "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 01:30 +0100
      Re: Editing PDF files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-30 00:26 -0400
      Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:55 +0200
  Re: Editing PDF files VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2026-09-29 22:45 -0500
    Re: Editing PDF files "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 10:23 -0400
    Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 13:01 +0200
  Re: Editing PDF files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-30 00:23 -0400
    Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 13:05 +0200
      Re: Editing PDF files "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 18:53 +0100
    Re: Editing PDF files "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-10-01 17:40 +0200
      Re: Editing PDF files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:09 -0400
        Re: Editing PDF files Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-10-01 18:21 +0000
          Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 20:30 +0200
            Re: Editing PDF files Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-10-01 18:58 +0000
              Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 21:42 +0200
            Re: Editing PDF files knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-01 21:35 -0400
              Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-02 11:56 +0200
            Re: Editing PDF files "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-10-02 16:12 +0200
              Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-02 19:50 +0200
                Re: Editing PDF files "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:57 +0200
                Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-02 21:34 +0200
                Re: Editing PDF files Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-02 20:19 -0400
            Re: Editing PDF files Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-10-02 17:54 +0000
  Re: Editing PDF files Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 06:53 +0000
    Re: Editing PDF files Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 07:34 +0000
    Re: Editing PDF files Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-30 13:58 +0100
      Re: Editing PDF files knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2026-09-30 09:30 -0400
        Re: Editing PDF files "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 10:36 -0400
          Re: Editing PDF files Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-02 06:29 -1100
        Re: Editing PDF files PDF Files <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 18:17 +0100
          Re: Editing PDF files knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2026-09-30 16:07 -0400
          Re: Editing PDF files "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 01:59 +0100
            Re: Editing PDF files Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-10-01 06:57 +0000
        Re: Editing PDF files Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-30 18:26 +0000
      Re: Editing PDF files VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2026-09-30 13:25 -0500
        Re: Editing PDF files Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-30 18:39 +0000
        Re: Editing PDF files Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 20:26 +0000
  Re: Editing PDF files Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2026-09-30 10:48 +0100
    Re: Editing PDF files "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 10:50 -0400
      Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 13:11 +0200
        Re: Editing PDF files "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-10-01 13:44 -0400
  Re: Editing PDF files Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-30 11:14 +0100
    Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 13:12 +0200
  Re: Editing PDF files Ammammata <ammammata@tiscali.it> - 2026-09-30 12:24 +0200
  Re: Editing PDF files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-30 16:08 -0400
    Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 13:13 +0200
      Re: Editing PDF files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-01 09:52 -0400
        Re: Editing PDF files "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 20:33 +0200
  Re: Editing PDF files Arkadiusz 'Black Fox' Artyszuk <asdfadsasdfa@atomicmail.io> - 2026-10-02 12:41 +0200
  Re: Editing PDF files Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-02 05:37 -1100

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