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| From | Steve Thompson <stevet810@gmail.com> |
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| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: Problem with the function that should display new letter |
| Date | 2015-11-01 23:43 +0000 |
| Organization | Friends of the Galactic Collective |
| Message-ID | <ngHyPC.MtK.pUJn3@gmail.com> (permalink) |
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On Sun, Nov 01, 2015 at 08:46:32AM -0800, supercat@casperkitty.com wrote:
> On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 8:01:03 AM UTC-6, Steve Thompson wrote:
> > As with the above it should be apparent that a considerable amount of
> > code could end up using saturating arithmetic. I further understand
> > that C++ provides a solution but that necessarily will make the code
> > reliant on it and I am not prepared to make the switch.
>
> IMHO, the value of C for portable code would be enhanced if the Standard
> would define ways of distinguishing storage formats, rvalue types, and means
> of converting rvalues to and from storage formats, such that platforms would
> not be required to accommodate all types defined by the standard, but would
> be required to either operate with types as specified in the code *or reject
> code whose specifications they could not satisfy*. Some processors have
> built-in support for saturating arithmetic, and many others could support
> compiler emulation of saturating arithmetic more efficiently than user-code
> emulation of same. If there were types which were storage-compatible with
> ordinary integers, but behaved with saturating-integer semantics then code
> which was written for compilers supporting that feature would be portable to
> any other compilers likewise supporting it.
> As to whether very many compilers would bother supporting saturating
> arithmetic if the Standard were to define it, that's hard to say, but if
> the Standard were to say that
> __int_extended(mss, sf, pa, mrvs, rbeh, sbeh)
> mss = Minimum storage size in bits
> sf = Storage format
> (u=unsigned, s=two's-comp, oc=one's-complement, sm=sign-mag,
> sn=native signed)
> pa = Padding/Alignment
> (not sure what forms to list)
> mrvs = Minimum size in bits of signed rvalue
> rbeh = Overflow behavior or rvalue
> (u=Undefined Behavior; wm=wrap to minimum size; wcv=wrap to any size
> which behaves as consistent value; piv=partial-indeterminate value,
> sat=saturate, err=indicate error via implementation-defined means,
> etc.)
> sbeh = Out-of-range behavior when storing value
> (u=Undefined Behavior; wm=wrap to minimum size; wcv=wrap to any size
> which behaves as consistent value; piv=partial-indeterminate value,
> sat=saturate, err=indicate error via implementation-defined means,
> etc.)
> with additional shorthand forms for cases where default values for many of
> those parameters would be acceptable, then it would be possible for existing
> compilers to accept declarations for types they naturally support merely by
> including a suitable header file, but compilers would be able to support
> both tighter and looser semantics as well. For example, under current rules
> a compiler with 16-bit "int" given a loop:
> for (int32_t i=start; i<=end; i++)
> could not assume that it will loop exactly (end-start) times since behavior
> would be defined as doing otherwise if end==INT32_MAX. If, however, the
> variable "i" were defined as not requiring numerical wraparound on storage,
> an optimizer may not need to honor such an obligation depending upon how
> "i" was defined.
> While the preprocessor macros necessary to convert declarations of such
> forms to pre-existing types would be a bit gnarly, I think they should be
> workable. Further, a lot of numerical code could be written to be both
> more efficient and easier to read if compilers could support some more
> integer behaviors.
GCC has the "__attribute__((...))" syntax, which I suppose might be
bent to this purpose, I presume other compilers have similar
mechanisms. I mainly decided saturating arithmetic was important for
program correctness in certain cases, and of course for process
control applications it could be highly critical to trap or otherwise
avoid wrapping from INT_MAX to INT_MIN.
Your proposal is interesting, and goes far beyond what I have so far
realized in the affected source module -- with only one exception. I
have sketched out macros which establish a range of values acceptable
for the result of an arithmetic operation. (Probably I will end up
writing a data structure to encapsulate the relevant information) In
any event I would extend your scheme as above to include a range of
accepted values; so one might do saturating arithmetic on a 16-bit
signed integer for which the allowable range of values is -500 through
500. The range should be arbitrary whereas you propose only to
specify the bit-width of the integer type. Obviously none of this
should affect the naive use case we all know and love today.
The problem with this (or your scheme as above) is that it implies
major surgery to the language; going by common wisdom in this
newsgroup I doubt many would accept it as a desirable feature. A
valid criticism is that it would make code more difficult to read.
Currently there is only one set of behaviors for integer operations.
Your proposal introduces an entirely new dimension to arithmetic
operations, and the only indication of behavior would be at the point
of variable definition. The way C is shaped your scheme might need to
be further extended such that constraints could be applied to
expressions as well as to variable definitions -- just to remain
consistent with the overall structure of the language. A cast on
steroids as it were.
There is nevertheless a strong case for strengthening the handling of
arithmetic operations in C. GCC has a complex number data type, so
why not stronger integers? There is no substitute for applications
which require the additional precision, and I personally do not wish
to use C++ as the solution.
Regards,
Steve Thompson
--
"If I had a nickel for every time some idiot called me about a
computer problem that turned out to be user error, I would be able to
retire and spend the rest of my days cultivating clues in my backyard
hillside garden." -- MysteryDog in 24hoursupport.helpdesk.
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Re: Problem with the function that should display new letter Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-11-01 09:06 +0000
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Re: Problem with the function that should display new letter supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-11-01 08:46 -0800
Re: Problem with the function that should display new letter Steve Thompson <stevet810@gmail.com> - 2015-11-01 23:43 +0000
Re: Problem with the function that should display new letter supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-11-01 16:05 -0800
Re: Problem with the function that should display new letter Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-11-01 21:41 +0000
Re: Problem with the function that should display new letter Steve Thompson <stevet810@gmail.com> - 2015-11-01 22:46 +0000
Re: Problem with the function that should display new letter Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-10-31 18:22 +0000
Re: Problem with the function that should display new letter Steve Thompson <stevet810@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 23:57 +0000
Re: Problem with the function that should display new letter Steve Thompson <stevet810@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 17:20 +0000
Re: Problem with the function that should display new letter Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-10-31 13:38 +0000
Re: Problem with the function that should display new letter supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-10-31 11:28 -0700
Re: Problem with the function that should display new letter Steve Thompson <stevet810@gmail.com> - 2015-11-01 00:06 +0000
Re: Problem with the function that should display new letter Steve Thompson <stevet810@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 17:58 +0000
Re: Problem with the function that should display new letter Alla _ <modelling.data@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 01:14 -0700
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