Re: Ting: SVFIG FPGA Design Workshop Featuring eP8080

From	rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.forth
Subject	Re: Ting: SVFIG FPGA Design Workshop Featuring eP8080
Date	2016-04-30 16:49 -0400
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On 4/30/2016 4:32 PM, Paul Rubin wrote:
> rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> writes:
>>>     https://github.com/dwelch67/thumbulator
>>> I haven't tried to use it.
>> So you don't know what it takes to run???  What do I do with a .c
>> file?
>
> Just type "make" and it compiles.  Compilation took 3.5 seconds on the
> Scaleway box which would correspond to under 0.5 sec on a fast x86.
> Then run "./thumbulator filename.bin".  I ran Mecrisp under it and it
> worked fine:
>
>      $ ./thumbulator ../mecrisp-stellaris-lpc1114fn28.bin
>      Mecrisp-Stellaris 2.1.6 with M0 core for LPC1114FN28 by Matthias Koch
>      : foo 10 0 do i . loop ;  ok.
>      foo 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9  ok.
>
> This took like no effort.

What do I type make into?  I assume my laptop running Windows 8?  Is the 
file listed above the modified version Matthias provided?


>> Everything is easy if you know it, lol.
>
> True-- I guess I knew what to look for and that helped.
>
>> I don't recall seeing much software development done in simulation
>> because of the practicalities of creating the environment. Embedded
>> stuff is all about interacting with the environment and modern
>> processors have debuggers (emulators).
>
> I guess it depends what it is.  If it's something like a motor
> controller or SDR that has hard realtime deadlines, ok, you can't really
> emulate it that usefully.  If it's something less constrained (e.g. it
> just talks to some HID gear or serial ports, so a millisecond here or
> there doesn't matter) then I've generally found it a big win to simulate
> the whole system.  E.g. I programmed a box that ran a POS receipt
> printer.  By simulating the system (including the printer) during
> testing, I'm sure I saved many miles of paper.

Great if your system is simple and you have *accurate* models for the 
devices you are interfacing too.  I remember once in college a grad 
student in control theory had worked on a motor simulator that worked 
perfectly with his control software.  Then he tried it on a real motor 
and it didn't work right.  He blamed the real motor!  lol


>> If you just want to run Aristophanes's Sieve then a simulator would do
>> just fine.
>
> Another example: your embedded box runs some complicated DSP algorithm
> that converts one waveform to another.  You can debug the algorithm
> without having to talk to real hardware, so you're probably better off
> using your comfy workstation environment instead of a cross-debugger.

I thought we were talking about the RTX2000?  This has gotten rather 
general.  Of course there are plenty of situations where simulation is 
good.  I've said exactly that.  Not sure what your point is.


>>> easier to learn Forth using something like Gforth on a Linux box.
>> Because an embedded board can do things that are hard to do from a PC
>> (at least since they took away the parallel port).  Those things can
>> be much more interesting than seeing the OK prompt on a PC.
>
> Fine, but RPi-level Linux boards have real GPIO's, memory protection,
> and tons more resources making breathing space for the software.  What's
> the value of starting on an MSP430?  I've never understood that.  I do
> understand the MSP can be deployed in ways the RPi can't, but that's not
> an issue for first-time learners.
>
> I'd still consider that device control stuff to be outside the scope of
> "learn to program".  Like to program DSP's you have to understand the
> Fourier transform, but that's a topic in math rather than programming.
> For a first-time learner without much math background, whose interest
> isn't specifically in DSP, this probably makes DSP programming a
> not-so-good introductory topic in programming.  The math you would also
> have to teach makes the learning curve steeper.

What processor you use depends on what your goals are.  Several people 
here like the lower end MCUs for education because the hardware is 
available very inexpensively.  I don't care.  I just want hardware that 
does what I want.  I used the rPi as a server to host the programming 
software for the Stellaris board I was using.  I never got the Bluetooth 
module I bought working correctly so I've since switched to a Microsemi 
SmartFusion2 board with integrated Bluetooth.  I hope that works better.

-- 

Rick C

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Ting: SVFIG FPGA Design Workshop Featuring eP8080 rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 15:32 -0400
  Re: Ting: SVFIG FPGA Design Workshop Featuring eP8080 JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2016-04-14 08:10 -0700
    Re: Ting: SVFIG FPGA Design Workshop Featuring eP8080 rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 12:43 -0400
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        Re: Ting: SVFIG FPGA Design Workshop Featuring eP8080 rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 21:09 -0400
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            Re: Ting: SVFIG FPGA Design Workshop Featuring eP8080 rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 11:55 -0400
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                Re: Ting: SVFIG FPGA Design Workshop Featuring eP8080 rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 14:47 -0400
                Re: Ting: SVFIG FPGA Design Workshop Featuring eP8080 Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-22 12:51 -0700
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                Re: Ting: SVFIG FPGA Design Workshop Featuring eP8080 rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-04-24 01:58 -0400
                Re: Ting: SVFIG FPGA Design Workshop Featuring eP8080 Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-24 00:53 -0700
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                Re: Ting: SVFIG FPGA Design Workshop Featuring eP8080 Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-04-27 09:48 -0500
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                Re: Ting: SVFIG FPGA Design Workshop Featuring eP8080 rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-04-23 18:36 -0400
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