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Re: cheers to all the illogical people that infest science Re: plasma is not a "state of matter" but is energy, and evidence of this comes from size of Stars

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On 4/29/2016 12:32 AM, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> On Thursday, April 28, 2016 at 5:25:33 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 4/28/2016 5:21 PM, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
>>> On Thursday, April 28, 2016 at 12:03:25 PM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>> Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Now some silly argue that if you take a gas and heat it enough it becomes a
>>>>> plasma.
>>>>
>>>> Why the insults? This should be about science.  A simple scientific
>>>> experiment would take a gas and apply extreme heat and see whether it
>>>> forms free electrons and positive ions.  Then cool it and see if it
>>>> becomes a gas again.
>>>>
>>>
>>> How do you explain Mars planet with no atmosphere having lightning?
>>
>
> I think Messenger satellite found lightning on Mercury, and Mercury has no atmosphere.

Only in the region of volcanic activity, where there is of course the 
expulsion of gases, which while not a persistent atmosphere, would 
support lightning.

Here's an example where reasoning and logic (which you are fond of) are 
only as good as the facts that would support them.

>
>
>> Mars has an atmosphere.
>>
>>>
>>> How do you explain a solid rock containing radioactive decay as a solid,
>>> and the decay particles as plasma?
>>
>> They're not. Charged radiation is not plasma. Charged radiation is not a
>> fluid.
>>
>
> Alpha particles from plutonium, uranium are radiation, yet you want to call
> alpha particles of the Sun as either a fluid or gas. Do you not think your
> desire to classify plasma as a state of matter is just a crazy desire.

Well, that's your opinion. I would say your desire to classify states of 
matter according to your own whim, rather than how scientists class 
states of matter is also a bit of a crazy desire.

I also think that any desire to reinvent science in solo isolation, 
using only reasoning and logic, is a bit of a crazy desire. The fact 
that you think your ability to apply reasoning and logic is bounds ahead 
of what scientists can do makes it more than a bit crazy.

>
> Why cannot you see that Classification is not science but a help to
> humans trying to understand the underlying science. Oops, you are not a
> scientist so you cannot see any of that.

How about we ask scientists whether taxonomy is science or not? Hmmm?

>
> Time to move on rather than argue with a nonscientist.
>
> Time to focus on the anomaly of Sun radius because plasma is not a state of
> matter but rather a EM energy.

There, you see? You are determined to work through your OWN thoughts on 
what the classification out to be, without regard to what scientists say 
on the matter. And you say that my comments on this can be disregarded 
because I'm not a scientist, even though it is what scientists say that 
you are disregarding. Face facts: you are disregarding what ANYONE 
(scientist or nonscientist) says regarding your thinking and your 
conclusions. That now being an inescapable observation, what do you make 
of that?

>
> Having searched the web, I found the Sun radius anomaly.
>
> AP
>


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Does Maxwell theory and equations cover "plasma" and derive plasma not as state of matter but as radiation energy Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 14:55 -0700
  Re: Does Maxwell theory and equations cover "plasma" and derive plasma not as state of matter but as radiation energy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 18:21 -0500
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                cheers to all the illogical people that infest science Re: plasma is not a "state of matter" but is energy, and evidence of this comes from size of Stars Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 15:21 -0700
                Re: cheers to all the illogical people that infest science Re: plasma is not a "state of matter" but is energy, and evidence of this comes from size of Stars Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 17:25 -0500
                Re: cheers to all the illogical people that infest science Re: plasma is not a "state of matter" but is energy, and evidence of this comes from size of Stars Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 22:32 -0700
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                Re: dumb people in physics that mistake a Classification scheme for reality Re: plasma is not a "state of matter" but is energy, and evidence of this comes from size of Stars Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 06:56 -0500
                Re: cheers to all the illogical people that infest science Re: plasma is not a "state of matter" but is energy, and evidence of this comes from size of Stars moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-29 05:06 +0000
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                Re: radius of Sun conform to gravity? Re: plasma is not a "state of matter" but is energy, and evidence of this comes from size of Stars Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 22:43 -0700
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