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Re: The first copy ( of a 4 gig file ) takes 11 seconds.

From Richard King <kingsley651@webby.org>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: The first copy ( of a 4 gig file ) takes 11 seconds.
Date 2016-04-22 19:11 -0400
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On Sat, 23 Apr 2016 01:01:15 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote:

> Richard King wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, 23 Apr 2016 00:05:11 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>> 
>>> Richard King wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, 22 Apr 2016 23:27:46 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> You ( Mr. DFS ) replied ( to Peter Köhlmann ):
>>>>>>> > So how do you propose being able to copy 3.5 GB in 3.5 seconds when
>>>>>>> > the drive needs 7 seconds just to read the data? Much less write it
>>>>>>> > again.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What will you do when Relf posts a vid of it happening in 3.5
>>>>>>> seconds?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As it turns out, the first copy ( of a 4 gig file ) takes 11 seconds;
>>>>> 
>>>>> It naturally does. You can't bypass the physical limitations of the
>>>>> drive
>>>>> 
>>>>>> subsequent copies take less than 3 seconds.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wrong. They /seem/ to happen in 3 seconds. In reality, you are
>>>>> reading/writing to buffers in RAM which happened to get filled with the
>>>>> first read/write. The real read/write still takes those 11 seconds,
>>>>> only it happens in the background now. Trip the power supply when
>>>>> windows says it is done and see your data vanish in a puff of smoke, as
>>>>> it is not yet written
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don't know why or how.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Naturally you don't. You are a windows user. In short, you are stupid
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've got 16 gigs of 1.9 GigHz RAM.
>>>>> 
>>>>> See? Lots of buffer. Even windows by now is using at least part of the
>>>>> RAM in a intelligent way (as linux did much longer). Which is: Fill all
>>>>> RAM not needed by Programs and their data with stuff buffered from
>>>>> disk. Chances are, it will be needed again
>>>> 
>>>> One word:
>>>> Cache.
>>> 
>>> Other word: Buffer
>>> 
>>> And now go playing on the highway
>> 
>> Buffer is sometimes referred to buffer cache.
>> You know what I meant.
>> 
>> Let's make it simple so even you can understand.
>> 
> 
> Idiot

Snipping and running just like a true Linux "advocate".
Trying to protect your track record of being almost 100 percent
incorrect on technical issues?
Me thinks so.

You should head on back to the village square where they pay you to
make balloons for the kids.

-- 
RK

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