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Re: Why does it take less than 3 seconds to make the second copy of the 4 gig file ?

From Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy, sci.physics
Subject Re: Why does it take less than 3 seconds to make the second copy of the 4 gig file ?
Date 2016-04-21 19:05 +0200
Organization DNLA GmbH
Message-ID <nfb125$757$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References (4 earlier) <Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.20{2.55P.Seattle.2016}> <20160421000457.1505a0eb@maxa-pc> <Jeff-Relf.Me@Apr.20{5.08P.Seattle.2016}> <nf9tjg$7mi$1@dont-email.me> <nfb0vc$ept$1@pcls7.std.com>

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Michael Moroney wrote:

> Peter =?UTF-8?B?S8O2aGxtYW5u?= <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> writes:
> 
>> wrote:
> 
>>> After a ReBoot, it takes 11 seconds to copy a 4 gig file
>>> to/from my TeraByte Samsung 850 EVO; after that,
>>> it takes _less_ than 3 seconds to copy it again.   Why ?
> 
>>Because it is buffered in your memory, you clueless dimbulb.
>>And no, it does *not* take just 3 seconds. You will need 7 seconds for the
>>operation to finish, even though the OS might tell you earlier that its
>>done (because of buffering). You simply can't bypass the physical
>>limitations, and those are around 500 MB/sec. In other words: The
>>operation will take 7 seconds, not 3, you idiot
> 
> The difference between "write back caching" and "write through caching".
> On a write, a disklike device (actual hard drive, RAID controller, Flash)
> with cache can tell the OS "success" upon a write as soon as it gets the
> data into its cache, or it can wait until the data is all safely onto
> non-volatile media before returning success to the OS.  The first is much
> faster than the second, but the second is much safer, in case something
> goes wrong (such as a power failure at the wrong time in a poorly designed
> system)

Not only just that. That cretinous dimbulb "Relf" (a very typical wintendo 
luser, dumb beyond any imagination) "tests" his drive with *one* copy of a 
large file. If he repeats that with a copy of several large files at once, 
he will see how long it really takes, because then the buffering will not 
work any more like it does with just one file

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                Why does it take less than 3 seconds to make the second copy of the 4 gig file ? Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-04-20 17:08 -0700
                Re: Why does it take less than 3 seconds to make the second copy of the 4 gig file ? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-21 09:00 +0200
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