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Re: LOL underestimated

From Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: LOL underestimated
Date 2016-04-20 23:51 +0200
Organization DNLA GmbH
Message-ID <nf8tf0$f5c$2@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References (3 earlier) <20160420203110.1b2edf85@maxa-pc> <ghdmjbd.lo3@rooftop.invalid> <20160420232546.4804cf6f@maxa-pc> <ghjmbnjc03.are@rooftop.invalid> <20160420235021.4a95a738@maxa-pc>

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Melzzzzz wrote:

> On Wed, 20 Apr 2016 21:41:51 +0000 (UTC)
> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>> > On Wed, 20 Apr 2016 21:13:16 +0000 (UTC)
>> > owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> >   
>> >> Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>> >> > On Wed, 20 Apr 2016 17:34:37 +0000 (UTC)
>> >> > owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> >> >     
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> I'm simultaneously running an attack on a particular hash over
>> >> >> the entire address space (those eight small windows in the vid).
>> >> >>     
>> >> > 
>> >> > https://eprint.iacr.org/2006/105
>> >> > Tunnels in Hash Functions: MD5 Collisions Within a Minute
>> >> 
>> >> Unless I'm misunderstanding things, that's just generating
>> >> collision pairs.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I assume that all
>> >> attacks against a hash still require a dictionary of hashes (which
>> >> is what I'm generating).
>> >>   
>> > 
>> > If you find collision of particular length, you have probable
>> > solution...
>> 
>> Length of what?
>> Can you give me a layman's executive summary of how the described
>> approach can reveal the original input given only the known hash?
>> 
> 
> look, this algo quickly finds out source of particular hash value. Got
> it?

Yes. For data which has nothing at all to do with the original data. Which 
makes it sort of pointless

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LOL underestimated owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-20 15:10 +0000
  Re: LOL underestimated vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-20 16:55 +0000
    Re: LOL underestimated owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-20 17:25 +0000
      Re: LOL underestimated vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-20 18:45 +0000
        Re: LOL underestimated vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-20 18:47 +0000
          Re: LOL underestimated owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-20 21:05 +0000
            Re: LOL underestimated vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-25 19:07 +0000
              Re: LOL underestimated owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-25 21:16 +0000
        Re: LOL underestimated Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-20 20:51 +0200
  Re: LOL underestimated Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-20 19:19 +0200
    Re: LOL underestimated owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-20 17:34 +0000
      Re: LOL underestimated Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-20 20:31 +0200
        Re: LOL underestimated owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-20 21:13 +0000
          Re: LOL underestimated Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-20 23:20 +0200
            Re: LOL underestimated owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-20 21:29 +0000
              Re: LOL underestimated Me Sham <osirus47@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-20 14:33 -0700
                Re: LOL underestimated Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-20 23:58 +0200
                Re: LOL underestimated owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-20 22:04 +0000
          Re: LOL underestimated Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-20 23:25 +0200
            Re: LOL underestimated owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-20 21:41 +0000
              Re: LOL underestimated Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-20 23:50 +0200
                Re: LOL underestimated owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-20 22:06 +0000
                Re: LOL underestimated Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-21 08:54 +0200
                Re: LOL underestimated owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-21 17:12 +0000
              Re: LOL underestimated Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-20 23:50 +0200
                Re: LOL underestimated Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-20 23:51 +0200
                Re: LOL underestimated Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-20 23:59 +0200
                Re: LOL underestimated owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-20 22:10 +0000
                Re: LOL underestimated Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-21 00:11 +0200
                Re: LOL underestimated owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-20 22:19 +0000
                Re: LOL underestimated Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-21 00:57 +0200
                Re: LOL underestimated owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-21 00:07 +0000
      Re: LOL underestimated DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-20 23:17 -0400
        Re: LOL underestimated owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-21 03:49 +0000
          Re: LOL underestimated DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-21 10:27 -0400
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