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Re: Another Luxon leadership challenge

From Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz>
Newsgroups nz.general
Subject Re: Another Luxon leadership challenge
Date 2026-08-20 00:27 +0000
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On 2026-08-14, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
> On 13 Aug 2026 08:33:38 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
>
>>On 2026-08-12, Willy Nilly <wn@nosuch.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 13 Aug 2026, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
>>>>is the political incompetence that Luxon has displayed that is the
>>>>reason National may not be re-elected to lead the Government.
>>>
>>> True, but there is a counter-point:  This is first time that Luxon is
>>> seen to be a strong leader, even if he actually isn't.
>>
>>Yes it is a case of Luxon fighting to stay above water. It is personal. It
>>is not a strong leader it is a leader fighting for survival. 
>>
> So 'fighting for survival' is the only time Luxon shows any strength
> of leadership or conviction.  In any other context he lacks credible
> political convictions.
>
Agreed. Luxon is not a leader. He does not inspire one to get behind him. He is
running the country as a business rather than leading it.

>>>  That
>>> perception may be worth an extra 1 or 2 percent of votes.   
>>
>>That maybe the case.
>>>
>>> As for Chris Penk, I never even heard of him.  Now he is gone.  A
>>> non-event.  Maybe Simeon Brown can advance a placing now to be in
>>> place the next time there is a challenge to Luxon.  At least I've
>>> heard of Brown, he looks a contender.
>>>
>
>

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Another Luxon leadership challenge Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> - 2026-08-13 09:18 +1200
  Re: Another Luxon leadership challenge wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) - 2026-08-12 21:59 +0000
    Re: Another Luxon leadership challenge Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> - 2026-08-13 08:33 +0000
      Re: Another Luxon leadership challenge Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> - 2026-08-15 11:26 +1200
        Re: Another Luxon leadership challenge Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> - 2026-08-20 00:27 +0000
    Re: Another Luxon leadership challenge Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> - 2026-08-15 11:23 +1200

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