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Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No?

From Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
Newsgroups alt.atheism, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No?
Date 2016-04-13 20:30 +0000
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 14:35:39 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 16:37:27 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
> 
>>On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 08:18:59 -0500, duke wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 19:25:30 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 16:20:29 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 10 Apr 2016 23:51:50 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>On Sun, 10 Apr 2016 14:19:24 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 10 Apr 2016 16:13:35 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>On Sun, 10 Apr 2016 08:56:49 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Apr 2016 18:58:32 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 08 Apr 2016 13:48:16 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 17:36:23 +0000 (UTC), Smiler
>>>>>>>>>>> <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>On Thu, 07 Apr 2016 12:04:43 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 20:24:24 +0000 (UTC), Smiler
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <smiler@jo.king>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 06 Apr 2016 11:27:59 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>><snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Science is on the verge of almost being able to prove the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existence of God.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Your stupid assertions are NOT evidence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can't hide from the creation of the universe.  All you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can do is suggest alternatives to the method God used in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> creation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>That would be the supposed creation for which you have no
>>>>>>>>>>>>evidence.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> We're here, aren't we.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Due to evolution, not a supposed creation.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If there was nothing, how could there be evolution?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Who said that there was nothing, liar?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> All the astrophysicists of the world.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cite one who said there was nothing, liar earl.
>>>>> 
>>>>> They all do.
>>>>
>>>>No cite, your unevidenced assertions are rejected.
>>> 
>>> Expansion of the universe required a starting point.  The two options
>>> are: 1.  God willed the starting point into existence and it expanded.
>>> 2.  The point always existed, but how?
>>
>>If your supposed god always existed, then why not the the universe?
> 
> God is neither material nor energy. 

Then it cannot exist.
Q.E.D.

> But, then again, no man can address the origin of God.

The origin of your supposed god character is when a group of ancient 
ignoramuses decided to make it up.

> It is not for us to know.  But we can compute the
> beginning of all things not God.

Because, unlike your supposed god character, they can be shown to exist.
 
>>> And if it always existed, why did it suddenly start to expand when it
>>> did and not before or later?
> 
>>And if your supposed god always existed, then why did it decide to
>>create the universe when it did and not before or later?
> 
> We don't know.

Just as we don't know (yet) how the universe existed before the big bang 
and why it happened when it did.
 
>>> Either way, you are faced with the hand of God at work.
>>That would be the supposed god for which you have no evidence.
> 
> Why do you pretend I have no evidence when I do. 

Because you cannot show one shred of evidence. All you have are stupid 
unevidenced beliefs.

> Just because you are afraid to admit it is not my problem

Your problem is that, either you are afraid to show it, or you have none.
Which is it, liar earl?

> *****
> "Telling lies about having evidence the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI *****

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-26 12:08 -0500
  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-26 19:36 +0000
    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-28 16:20 -0500
      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-29 22:39 +0000
        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-30 11:15 -0500
          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-30 18:11 +0000
            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-31 07:03 -0500
              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-31 17:45 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-31 15:16 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-01 20:59 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-04-01 16:13 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-01 16:23 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-01 16:22 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-01 23:21 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-02 07:35 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-02 19:38 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-03 08:30 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-03 23:46 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-04 13:19 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-05 00:54 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-05 07:40 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-04-05 17:16 +0200
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Dreamer In Colore <dreamerincolore@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-05 13:50 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-05 19:23 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Dreamer In Colore <dreamerincolore@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-05 15:40 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-04-05 15:35 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-06 11:31 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-06 20:11 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2016-04-06 18:31 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-06 23:31 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2016-04-07 17:37 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-07 11:56 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-04-05 15:25 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-06 11:30 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-06 20:16 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-07 11:58 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-08 17:25 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-04-08 13:01 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-08 13:47 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-09 18:52 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-04-09 15:06 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-10 08:53 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-10 08:47 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-10 16:06 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-10 14:18 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-10 23:45 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-11 16:19 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-12 19:15 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-04-12 14:52 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-13 08:11 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-13 16:26 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-13 14:30 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-13 20:19 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-14 11:25 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-14 23:07 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2016-04-13 18:17 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-13 23:21 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2016-04-14 17:49 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-14 23:02 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-08 13:45 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-09 18:54 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-10 08:54 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-05 19:11 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-06 11:32 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-06 20:19 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-04-06 14:46 -0600
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-06 23:44 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-07 12:03 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-08 17:33 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-07 11:59 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-08 17:28 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-08 13:47 -0500
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                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-10 08:55 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-06 11:27 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-06 20:24 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-07 12:04 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-08 17:36 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-08 13:48 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-09 18:58 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-10 08:56 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-10 16:13 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-10 14:19 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-10 23:51 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-11 16:20 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-12 19:25 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-13 08:18 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-13 16:37 +0000
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                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-14 23:09 +0000
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