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Re: Emergency

From Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.usage.english
Subject Re: Emergency
Date 2026-08-18 16:03 +0100
Message-ID <nejai0Fdp7tU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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Le 18/08/2026 à 15:42, occam a écrit :
> On 18/08/2026 15:39, Rich Ulrich wrote:
>>
>> As an outside observer, I can mention that I read it as a
>> report of curious information, not as a complaint.
> 
> Rich, you have to see the quote in the context of the full BBC article:
> 
> https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c79gg1pyxe2o
> 
> Here is another quote from the same article:
> 
> "In a post shared to social media, Jones said: "These alerts are
> welcome, when necessary, but Welsh first? And then 10mins later the
> English version? Really? When there is a severe national alert!?
> 
> "No offence, but most people in Wales will be severely injured by the
> time they have google translated the alert!"
> 
> [ObAUE] : Not only are these unmistakably complaints, they are _AUE
> relevant_ complaints. The poster is complaining that Welsh language
> should get priority over English.
> 
> Follow-up set to Alt.Usage.Welsh :-). [Alas, not possible.]


I wonder whether you, as a foreigner, have understood the difference 
between complaining and whingeing (which in 
<nefnmpFr33cU1@mid.individual.net> you said is the British way). 
Whingeing is not good; complaining may be justified.

Now, the purpose of emergency alerts is to warn people of imminent 
danger. In Wales, everyone - except possibly some unintegrated 
immigrants - understands English. A quarter have some Welsh, and half of 
those are fluent in it.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_language>

If there really were an emergency - the missiles are just about to 
strike… - which language would you use, one understood by everyone or 
one understood by one person in eight? Welsh has been put first for 
political reasons. If it were a matter of life and death, of minutes, 
and some died because they couldn't understand the message, it's 
politicking that would have killed them.

To complain about this seems to me to be entirely reasonable.

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Emergency Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-16 09:50 +0100
  Re: Emergency Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-16 13:58 +0200
    Re: Emergency Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-16 13:10 +0100
      Re: Emergency Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-16 14:23 +0100
        Re: Emergency Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-17 07:56 +0200
          Re: Emergency Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-17 08:03 +0100
            Re: Emergency Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-17 14:44 +0200
              Re: Emergency Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-17 16:25 +0200
            Re: Emergency Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> - 2026-08-17 18:36 +0100
              Re: Emergency Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 12:05 -0700
                Re: Emergency Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 12:24 -0700
                Re: Emergency Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-18 04:56 +0200
                Re: Emergency Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 20:31 -0700
                Re: Emergency Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-18 08:29 +0100
                Re: Emergency Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-19 05:45 +0200
                Re: Emergency Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-19 14:43 +1000
                Re: Emergency Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 22:13 -0700
                Re: Emergency Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-20 02:44 +0200
                Re: Emergency Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> - 2026-08-20 14:06 +0100
              Re: Emergency Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-18 06:54 +0100
          Re: Emergency Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-17 21:08 +0100
            Re: Emergency Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> - 2026-08-18 16:11 +0100
              Re: Emergency Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-18 20:10 +0200
                Re: Emergency Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> - 2026-08-20 14:03 +0100
                Re: Emergency Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-20 15:29 +0200
      Re: Emergency Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-16 16:09 +0200
  Re: Emergency occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-16 16:30 +0200
    Re: Emergency Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-08-16 18:15 +0000
      Re: Emergency Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-08-16 14:18 -0700
    Re: Emergency wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-08-16 19:41 +0000
      Re: Emergency occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-17 08:23 +0200
        Re: Emergency Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-17 08:18 +0100
          Re: Emergency Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> - 2026-08-17 18:42 +0100
            Re: Emergency Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-18 05:01 +0200
        Re: Emergency Janet <nobody@home.com> - 2026-08-17 10:41 +0100
          Re: Emergency Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-17 13:42 +0100
        Re: Emergency Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-17 21:24 +0100
          Re: Emergency occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-18 10:01 +0200
            Re: Emergency Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-08-18 09:39 -0400
              Re: Emergency occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-18 16:42 +0200
                Re: Emergency Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-18 16:03 +0100
                Re: Emergency Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-08-18 12:59 -0400
                Re: Emergency Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-19 08:57 +1000
                Re: Emergency Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-19 06:31 +0100
                Re: Emergency occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-19 08:52 +0200
                Re: Emergency Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-19 08:49 +0100
                Re: Emergency occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-19 13:50 +0200
                Re: Emergency Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:50 +0100
                Re: Emergency athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-19 15:40 +0000
                Re: Emergency Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-20 07:26 +0100
                Re: Emergency occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-20 09:14 +0200
                Re: Emergency Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-20 09:19 +0100
                Re: Emergency "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news> - 2026-08-20 09:07 +0000
                Re: Emergency Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-20 10:45 +0100
                Re: Emergency "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news> - 2026-08-20 10:05 +0000
                Re: Emergency Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-20 12:51 +0100
                Re: Emergency Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-21 00:50 +0100
                Re: Emergency Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> - 2026-08-21 12:22 +0100
                Re: Emergency Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-21 16:59 +0100
                Re: Emergency Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-20 15:33 +0200
                Re: Emergency wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-08-20 18:30 +0000
                Re: Emergency "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-20 21:32 +0100
                Re: Emergency Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-21 00:53 +0100
                Re: Emergency Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-21 06:24 +0100
                Re: Emergency Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-21 06:28 +0100
                Re: Emergency nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-20 13:33 +0200
                Re: Emergency Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-20 13:31 +0100
                Re: Emergency nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-20 22:26 +0200
                Re: Emergency Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-21 06:28 +0100
                Re: Emergency occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-21 07:44 +0200
                Re: Emergency Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-21 07:00 +0100
                Re: Emergency nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-21 11:34 +0200
                Re: Emergency Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-21 17:10 +0100
                Re: Emergency "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-21 17:51 +0100
                Re: Emergency wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-08-21 18:21 +0000
                Re: Emergency athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-21 18:52 +0000
                Re: Emergency Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-08-21 19:30 +0000
                Re: Emergency Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-08-21 22:15 +0200
                Re: Emergency nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-21 20:58 +0200
                Re: Emergency Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-21 21:01 +0100
                Re: Emergency nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-21 20:58 +0200
                Re: Emergency Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-08-20 23:38 +0200
                Re: Emergency Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-21 00:57 +0100
                Re: Emergency Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-18 19:23 +0100
      Re: Emergency Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-17 09:36 +0200
        Re: Emergency Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-17 21:27 +0100
          Re: Emergency Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-18 10:36 +0200
    Re: Emergency Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-16 20:44 +0100
      Re: Emergency Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-17 08:46 +1000
    Re: Emergency Janet <nobody@home.com> - 2026-08-16 23:32 +0100
      Re: Emergency occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-17 07:52 +0200
    Re: Emergency Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-17 08:52 +1000
    Re: Emergency Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-17 06:36 +0100
      Re: Emergency nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-19 13:32 +0200
        Re: Emergency Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-19 13:09 +0100
          Re: Emergency nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-19 18:19 +0200
  Re: Emergency Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-16 20:41 +0100
    Re: Emergency Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-17 09:48 +0200
  Re: Emergency Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-17 08:39 +1000
    Re: Emergency Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-08-17 09:40 +0200
      Re: Emergency Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-17 08:45 +0100
        Re: Emergency Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-17 21:55 +1000

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