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Re: When The Sun Brings Darkness And Chaos

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Subject Re: When The Sun Brings Darkness And Chaos
Date 2016-04-06 16:55 -0500
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On 4/6/2016 12:20 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> When The Sun Brings Darkness And Chaos
>> http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2016/04/06/473238503/when-the-sun-brings-darkness-and-chaos
>>
>
>
>> Trying not to be very apocalyptic (but being so), a very big solar
>> storm could disrupt the fabric of society as we know it: The danger
>> exists and is palpable, says astrophysicist Marcelo Gleiser.
>
>
>> In 1859, a gigantic solar storm produced a CME that hit us bad. It
>> was the largest recorded event of this nature, the famous Carrington
>> event. (Richard Carrington was one of the two British astronomers
>> that first identified the flare and other disruptions in the solar
>> surface, such as an abnormal number of solar spots.) Auroras were
>> observed as far north as Australia and Tahiti, and as far south as
>> Hawaii and even Colombia, close to the equator. Telegraph lines all
>> over Europe and North America failed, and some telegraph operators
>> got shocked. Telegraph pylons threw sparks. Fortunately, society
>> didn't rely heavily on electricity at the time. If this were to
>> happen today, the story would have been quite different.

1. there are no telegraph lines.

2. all powerlines are rotated in phase every few thousand feet so they 
do not pickup fields, nor radiate 60Hz all over the planet.



>>
>> When CMEs hit the outer fringes of the magnetic field that protects
>> us (the same one that makes compasses work) they make it wobble.
>> Wobbling magnetic fields kick electric particles around, causing
>> electric currents in conductors. In 1859, the best conductors were
>> the telegraph lines. Today, power grids cover the surface of the
>> planet. The U.S. power grid runs at near capacity and wouldn't take
>> the surcharge from the CME. The same with many others across the
>> globe. If a Carrington-class or larger event were to hit,
>> transformers would fail everywhere.

wrong.



>> Power at a global scale would be
>> disrupted for weeks, months, possibly even longer.

if it blew out transformers, you are SOL,  only a few factories, and 
they are backordered, it takes about 6 months to get one, if you ordered 
1000, it would take 3 or 4 years.





>    Still trebert would be able to sail in his sailboat... but forget the
>    food and water part.


trebert could use candles to light his way

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When The Sun Brings Darkness And Chaos Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 12:20 -0500
  Re: When The Sun Brings Darkness And Chaos jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-06 17:58 +0000
    Re: When The Sun Brings Darkness And Chaos Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-04-06 22:53 +0000
      Re: When The Sun Brings Darkness And Chaos jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-06 23:22 +0000
        Re: When The Sun Brings Darkness And Chaos Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-04-07 09:22 +0000
          Re: When The Sun Brings Darkness And Chaos jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 20:15 +0000
            Re: When The Sun Brings Darkness And Chaos Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-04-07 22:48 +0000
              Re: When The Sun Brings Darkness And Chaos jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 23:19 +0000
              Re: When The Sun Brings Darkness And Chaos Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-07 19:19 -0500
                Re: When The Sun Brings Darkness And Chaos jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-08 01:43 +0000
                Re: When The Sun Brings Darkness And Chaos Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-04-08 22:53 +0000
                Re: When The Sun Brings Darkness And Chaos moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-09 17:22 +0000
  Re: When The Sun Brings Darkness And Chaos Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-06 16:55 -0500
  Re: When The Sun Brings Darkness And Chaos Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-04-07 00:03 -0400
    Re: When The Sun Brings Darkness And Chaos benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-04-07 00:15 -0400
      Re: When The Sun Brings Darkness And Chaos jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 04:36 +0000
        Re: When The Sun Brings Darkness And Chaos benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-04-07 02:30 -0400
  Re: When The Sun Brings Darkness And Chaos Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-04-07 12:44 -0700

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