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Re: The Virtual Partition - say goodbye to FAT12

From "wolfgang kern" <nowhere@never.at>
Newsgroups alt.lang.asm, alt.os.development
Subject Re: The Virtual Partition - say goodbye to FAT12
Date 2016-04-05 22:19 +0200
Organization KESYS-development
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Hello Mike, 
 
>> What's wrong by using FAT16 instead of FAT12 for small
>> systems ?
 
> Hi wolfgang,
 
> What's "wrong" with using FAT12 for small systems?

Me too see FAT12 as a weird historical requirement, I meant that 
FAT16 could replace FAT12 with lesser overhead.

> The Virtual Partition enables the use of the exact same
> simple FAT12 driver for an unmodified fully compliant FAT32
> volume. What's wrong with that?

Yeah, you haven't said it before.
So most of us are still in doubt what your FAT32-modifaction 
was all about...
Meanwile a few of us older AOD's may have got your idea :)
 
> The only difference in the driver is that the FAT table
> entries are 32 bit instead of 12 bit. As a bonus, the 32 bit
> entries are easier to handle than the odd sized (not a
> native CPU word size) 12 bit which can also cross a sector
> boundary for added complications. Of course, a full blown
> FAT32 driver is expected to process the entries as the
> actual 28 bit that it is and maintain the top 4 (reserved)
> bits. It's way past the need to be concerned about the
> mature FAT32 file system anymore (and even if the bits are
> used - say by a file utility) the hobbyist system can safely
> ignore them. Of course, handling them correctly is only a
> minor thing anyway. Some other small nit picks that would
> make the drivers different such as having the directory
> entry for the file start cluster in two parts in two
> different places is also easily ignored (and just as easily
> handled) since the size of the Virtual Partition - even when
> 8MB would have a max cluster number of only 16K which easily
> fits in the original 16 bit entry anyway.

After all, you could have just said that you only made the FAT-32 
root directory a fix-size like old FAT12/16 instead of dynamic.
so why that many posts and distracting words for a single matter :)
__
wolfgang 

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The Virtual Partition - say goodbye to FAT12 "Mike Gonta" <mikegonta@gmail.com> - 2016-03-31 17:51 -0400
  Re: The Virtual Partition - say goodbye to FAT12 Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-31 20:48 -0500
    Re: The Virtual Partition - say goodbye to FAT12 "Mike Gonta" <mikegonta@gmail.com> - 2016-04-01 06:50 -0400
      Re: The Virtual Partition - say goodbye to FAT12 Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-01 11:06 -0500
        Re: The Virtual Partition - say goodbye to FAT12 "Mike Gonta" <mikegonta@gmail.com> - 2016-04-01 13:45 -0400
          Re: The Virtual Partition - say goodbye to FAT12 Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-01 17:06 -0500
            Re: The Virtual Partition - say goodbye to FAT12 James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-01 23:16 +0100
              Re: The Virtual Partition - say goodbye to FAT12 Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-01 17:29 -0500
                Re: The Virtual Partition - say goodbye to FAT12 Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-04-01 20:24 -0400
                Re: The Virtual Partition - say goodbye to FAT12 Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-02 00:10 -0500
                Re: The Virtual Partition - say goodbye to FAT12 Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-04-02 12:03 -0400
                Re: The Virtual Partition - say goodbye to FAT12 "Mike Gonta" <mikegonta@gmail.com> - 2016-04-02 20:19 -0400
                Re: The Virtual Partition - say goodbye to FAT12 "Mike Gonta" <mikegonta@gmail.com> - 2016-04-02 20:08 -0400
                Re: The Virtual Partition - say goodbye to FAT12 "Mike Gonta" <mikegonta@gmail.com> - 2016-04-02 20:02 -0400
                Re: The Virtual Partition - say goodbye to FAT12 "Mike Gonta" <mikegonta@gmail.com> - 2016-04-02 19:55 -0400
              Re: The Virtual Partition - say goodbye to FAT12 "Mike Gonta" <mikegonta@gmail.com> - 2016-04-02 19:30 -0400
            Re: The Virtual Partition - say goodbye to FAT12 "Mike Gonta" <mikegonta@gmail.com> - 2016-04-02 18:55 -0400
              Re: The Virtual Partition - say goodbye to FAT12 Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-04 00:40 -0500
  Re: The Virtual Partition - say goodbye to FAT12 "wolfgang kern" <nowhere@never.at> - 2016-04-01 09:20 +0200
    Re: The Virtual Partition - say goodbye to FAT12 "Mike Gonta" <mikegonta@gmail.com> - 2016-04-01 07:01 -0400
      Re: The Virtual Partition - say goodbye to FAT12 "wolfgang kern" <nowhere@never.at> - 2016-04-04 10:42 +0200
        Re: The Virtual Partition - say goodbye to FAT12 "Mike Gonta" <mikegonta@gmail.com> - 2016-04-05 15:58 -0400
          Re: The Virtual Partition - say goodbye to FAT12 "wolfgang kern" <nowhere@never.at> - 2016-04-05 22:19 +0200
            Re: The Virtual Partition - say goodbye to FAT12 "Mike Gonta" <mikegonta@gmail.com> - 2016-04-05 18:24 -0400
  Re: The Virtual Partition - say goodbye to FAT12 James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-01 09:55 +0100
    Re: The Virtual Partition - say goodbye to FAT12 "Mike Gonta" <mikegonta@gmail.com> - 2016-04-01 07:11 -0400
  Re: The Virtual Partition - say goodbye to FAT12 Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-04-01 20:24 -0400
    Re: The Virtual Partition - say goodbye to FAT12 "Mike Gonta" <mikegonta@gmail.com> - 2016-04-02 21:30 -0400

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