Re: Any YECs among us?

From	Axel <none@not.here>
Newsgroups	alt.atheism
Subject	Re: Any YECs among us?
Date	2026-08-09 11:57 +1000
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Andrew wrote:
> "Axel" wrote in message news:ndnqlgF30bnU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Andrew wrote:
>>> "Axel" wrote:
>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>> "Axel" wrote:
>>>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>> "Dawn Flood" wrote:
>>>>>>>> jojo wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just curious; please don't be ashamed if this is really your 
>>>>>>>>>> belief!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> yecs is what?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jojo, Honey, listen, okay?! It's a simple copy & paste; here we 
>>>>>>>> go!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Google Query: yecs meaning
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Answer: Young Earth Creationism (YEC) is a religious belief 
>>>>>>>> that the Earth, universe, and all life were created by God in 
>>>>>>>> six literal 24-hour days roughly 6,000 to 10,000 years ago.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Got it now?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dawn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This will help you on the issue of~~~>the Universe.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>          ---> https://tinyurl.com/jatk6nw8
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the Universe is just unfathomable. but some
>>>>>> silly people believe it was all made by a God.
>>>>>
>>>>> In contrast to the fool, according to this very
>>>>> old proverb.
>>>>>
>>>>>  "The fool says in his heart, "There is no God'".
>>>>>                    ~ Ancient Proverb
>>>>>
>>>>> Complexity, order and specified information do
>>>>> not arise spontaneously; but~are~spontaneously and naturally lost. 
>>>>
>>>> I believe there have been scientific experiments that prove complex 
>>>> forms can evolve spontaneously from simple entities
>
> The fact that a snowflake can [evolve spontaneously] ,as you say, from
> a water molecule, can not be compared to a DNA molecule that has the
> specifiec 'information' to synthesize a living thing. And whoever 
> taught you that has deceived you.
> There is absolutely no analogy between a snow crystal and a living 
> organism.
>
>>> So you do ""believe"". You just said that you did.
>>
>> no God involved
>
> Then who wrote the code that exists in all seeds? Because they must
> have the specific code to synthesize the living thing that comes from
> it.
>
>>>>> Telling us that above it all, there IS an intelligent Mind.
>>>>
>>>> maybe so,
>>>
>>> So here the evidence has forced this atheist to concede.
>>
>> nope. I neither believe or disbelieve
>
> So just ""maybe"", right?
>>>> but consider.. of all the trillions upon trillions of galactic 
>>>> bodies that exist this intelligence picks ours to amuse itself 
>>>> with. So it creates a complex ecosystem, with the highest trophic 
>>>> level being dinosaurs. But unfortunately they're all destroyed by 
>>>> one of the celestial bodies he created. Guess God didn't see that 
>>>> coming. Never mind, he tries again, and decides to create humans. 
>>>> However, they prove not as durable or resilient as the former 
>>>> reptiles, as they succumb to natural disasters, earthquakes, 
>>>> floods, famines, etc., and the myriad diseases he created. And as 
>>>> if that's not enough, they also have a distinct propensity to kill 
>>>> each other. God is not doing so well, is he? What next I wonder.
>>>
>>> If *God* were responsible for the above, Would it then be logical to
>>
>> what I described appears inconsistent with design by an all powerful, 
>> loving, being in control of the Universe therefore no God
>
> So if you didn't like some product that you possessed, would it be 
> logical
> to declare that the company that manufactured it -did not exist-? No, 
> that would be most illogical as well as foolish. But that is exactly 
> what you
> have done.
>

a manufactured product has a known manufacturer. However, this 
discussion is about whether the product (the Universe) has any 
'manufacturer', so your analogy is invalid.


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Any YECs among us? Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-08-06 13:38 +0000
  Re: Any YECs among us? jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2026-08-06 15:48 +0000
    Re: Any YECs among us? Vincent Maycock <maycock@gmail.com> - 2026-08-06 20:22 -0400
      Re: Any YECs among us? jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2026-08-07 14:54 +0000
        Re: Any YECs among us? Vincent Maycock <maycock@gmail.com> - 2026-08-07 12:42 -0400
          Re: Any YECs among us? "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> - 2026-08-07 19:56 -0700
            Re: Any YECs among us? Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-08-08 07:05 -0400
              Re: Any YECs among us? jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2026-08-08 15:18 +0000
                Re: Any YECs among us? Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-08-09 05:14 -0400
                Re: Any YECs among us? jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2026-08-09 15:54 +0000
              Re: Any YECs among us? "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> - 2026-08-08 13:34 -0700
                Re: Any YECs among us? Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-08-09 05:16 -0400
                Re: Any YECs among us? "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> - 2026-08-09 09:49 -0700
                Re: Any YECs among us? Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-08-10 07:55 -0400
                Re: Any YECs among us? "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> - 2026-08-10 11:12 -0700
                Re: Any YECs among us? Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-08-10 19:05 -0400
                Re: Any YECs among us? Ted <sam.m.tedesco@gmail.com> - 2026-08-13 15:00 -0400
                Re: Any YECs among us? Ted <sam.m.tedesco@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 15:53 -0400
            Re: Any YECs among us? Vincent Maycock <maycock@gmail.com> - 2026-08-08 08:42 -0400
              Re: Any YECs among us? "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> - 2026-08-08 13:35 -0700
                Re: Any YECs among us? Vincent Maycock <maycock@gmail.com> - 2026-08-08 19:14 -0400
                Re: Any YECs among us? "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> - 2026-08-08 18:43 -0700
                Re: Any YECs among us? Vincent Maycock <maycock@gmail.com> - 2026-08-08 22:48 -0400
                Re: Any YECs among us? Axel <none@not.here> - 2026-08-09 15:54 +1000
                Re: Any YECs among us? "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> - 2026-08-09 00:49 -0700
                Re: Any YECs among us? Vincent Maycock <maycock@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 09:06 -0400
                Re: Any YECs among us? Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-08-09 05:17 -0400
                Re: Any YECs among us? "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> - 2026-08-09 09:57 -0700
                Re: Any YECs among us? Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-08-10 08:05 -0400
                Re: Any YECs among us? jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2026-08-12 16:11 +0000
                Re: Any YECs among us? Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-08-12 18:22 -0400
                Re: Any YECs among us? jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2026-08-13 20:02 +0000
                Re: Any YECs among us? Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-08-14 02:47 -0400
                Re: Any YECs among us? jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2026-08-14 14:43 +0000
                Re: Any YECs among us? Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-08-14 14:22 -0400
    Re: Any YECs among us? Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-08-06 20:24 -0500
      Re: Any YECs among us? "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> - 2026-08-06 22:41 -0700
        Re: Any YECs among us? Axel <none@not.here> - 2026-08-07 19:03 +1000
          Re: Any YECs among us? "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> - 2026-08-07 07:26 -0700
            Re: Any YECs among us? Axel <none@not.here> - 2026-08-08 09:51 +1000
              Re: Any YECs among us? "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> - 2026-08-07 18:02 -0700
                Re: Any YECs among us? Axel <none@not.here> - 2026-08-08 14:46 +1000
                Re: Any YECs among us? "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> - 2026-08-08 02:44 -0700
                Re: Any YECs among us? Axel <none@not.here> - 2026-08-09 11:57 +1000
                Re: Any YECs among us? Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-08-10 17:18 -0500
                Re: Any YECs among us? "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> - 2026-08-11 03:47 -0700
                Re: Any YECs among us? Vincent Maycock <maycock@gmail.com> - 2026-08-11 09:25 -0400
                Re: Any YECs among us? "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> - 2026-08-11 12:44 -0700
                Re: Any YECs among us? Vincent Maycock <maycock@gmail.com> - 2026-08-11 16:58 -0400
                Re: Any YECs among us? Axel <none@not.here> - 2026-08-13 11:46 +1000
                Re: Any YECs among us? Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-08-12 23:49 -0500
                Re: Any YECs among us? Ted <sam.m.tedesco@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 16:40 -0400
                Re: Any YECs among us? Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-08-08 07:07 -0400
        Re: Any YECs among us? Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-08-07 18:46 -0500
          Re: Any YECs among us? "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> - 2026-08-07 18:01 -0700
            Re: Any YECs among us? jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2026-08-08 15:16 +0000
              Re: Any YECs among us? Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-08-08 22:43 -0500
            Re: Any YECs among us? Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-08-08 22:46 -0500
              Re: Any YECs among us? Samuel Spade <sam@spade.invalid> - 2026-08-08 23:58 -0700
                Re: Any YECs among us? Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 18:08 -0500
      Re: Any YECs among us? jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2026-08-07 14:53 +0000
    Re: Any YECs among us? Ordatious <order@order.invalid> - 2026-08-08 09:54 +0000
  Re: Any YECs among us? Axel <none@not.here> - 2026-08-08 11:23 +1000
  Re: Any YECs among us? Seymour Hare <void@invalid.inv> - 2026-08-08 19:02 -0400
    Re: Any YECs among us? Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2026-08-09 14:07 +0000
      Re: Any YECs among us? Seymour Hare <void@invalid.inv> - 2026-08-13 22:44 -0400
    Re: Any YECs among us? Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 18:09 -0500
  Re: Any YECs among us? Ted <sam.m.tedesco@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 15:59 -0400

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