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| From | James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> |
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| Newsgroups | alt.os.development |
| Subject | Re: The morality of operating system security |
| Date | 2016-04-01 23:10 +0100 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <ndmrf7$tu1$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On 01/04/2016 17:25, Bernhard Schornak wrote: > James Harris wrote: > > >> On 31/03/2016 16:47, Bernhard Schornak wrote: >>> James Harris wrote: >>> >>>> On 29/03/2016 19:01, wolfgang kern wrote: ... > http://tinyurl.com/ndh5y68 > http://www.cbsnews.com/feature/nsa-surveillance-exposed/ > http://tinyurl.com/mgsuu4z Thanks. The first and last links were interesting. I don't mind the NSA or the UK police getting tracking records for my phone. But I don't want Microsoft or Google or any commercial company to know how where my phone goes and when. Unfortunately, AIUI, they do, and I expect they use it for commercial profiling. ... >>> LEWER DOOD AS SLAAV >>> >>> (Better dead than slave...) >> >> :-( >> >> That is not the choice! > > > Maybe not your's. ... > For myself - I really preferred death over a life as property > of someone else. It is the European dream to live our life in > dignity and enjoy our freedom, isn't it? As said, I don't want commercial companies getting personal profiling data but I don't mind my government's security services getting it. For me, the choice is not between death and slavery (that is far too melodramatic) but it is a choice between privacy and safety. I don't mind us losing some privacy (to very specific governmental agencies only) if it will help to keep us safe. This is one of those false choices. People ask if we are willing to have the government access our private data. What they don't mention is the limits on what they can see or who can see it, or that most of us are totally uninteresting to the security services. Nor do they mention how it helps protect us from lethal threats - and also, for that matter, helps protect us from legitimate fear of danger so that we can go about our lives without worrying about where trouble is to strike next. IIRC they said that _ten_ terror attacks were prevented last year in the UK due to intelligence gathering. How would we feel if there had, instead, been ten terrorist attacks? That's a long way of explaining why I say that, to me, the choice is nothing at all to do with slavery(!) but is between privacy and safety. -- James
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The morality of operating system security James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-29 15:09 +0100
Re: The morality of operating system security JJ <jj4public@vfemail.net> - 2016-03-30 00:03 +0700
Re: The morality of operating system security "wolfgang kern" <nowhere@never.at> - 2016-03-29 19:39 +0200
Re: The morality of operating system security James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-30 23:54 +0100
Re: The morality of operating system security JJ <jj4public@vfemail.net> - 2016-03-31 06:16 +0700
Re: The morality of operating system security "wolfgang kern" <nowhere@never.at> - 2016-03-29 20:01 +0200
Re: The morality of operating system security James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-30 23:59 +0100
Re: The morality of operating system security Bernhard Schornak <schornak@web.de> - 2016-03-31 17:47 +0200
Re: The morality of operating system security James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-01 08:11 +0100
Re: The morality of operating system security Bernhard Schornak <schornak@web.de> - 2016-04-01 18:25 +0200
Re: The morality of operating system security James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-01 23:10 +0100
Re: The morality of operating system security Bernhard Schornak <schornak@web.de> - 2016-04-02 14:18 +0200
Re: The morality of operating system security "wolfgang kern" <nowhere@never.at> - 2016-04-01 09:58 +0200
Re: The morality of operating system security James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-01 10:06 +0100
Re: The morality of operating system security Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-03-29 17:39 -0400
Re: The morality of operating system security James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-31 00:13 +0100
Re: The morality of operating system security Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-03-30 23:18 -0400
Re: The morality of operating system security "Alexei A. Frounze" <alexfrunews@gmail.com> - 2016-03-31 00:31 -0700
Re: The morality of operating system security Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-03-31 16:57 -0400
Re: The morality of operating system security James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-01 09:22 +0100
Re: The morality of operating system security Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-04-01 20:24 -0400
Re: The morality of operating system security James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 18:25 +0100
Re: The morality of operating system security Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-04-09 18:57 -0400
Re: The morality of operating system security James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 09:07 +0100
Re: The morality of operating system security Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-04-26 23:58 -0400
Re: The morality of operating system security James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 07:01 +0100
Re: The morality of operating system security Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-04-27 05:42 -0400
Re: The morality of operating system security James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 00:05 +0100
Re: The morality of operating system security Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-05-03 16:55 -0400
Re: The morality of operating system security James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 09:00 +0100
Re: The morality of operating system security Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-05-04 17:22 -0400
Re: The morality of operating system security James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-05 17:02 +0100
Re: The morality of operating system security Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-05-05 17:55 -0400
Re: The morality of operating system security "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2016-05-09 14:58 +0100
Re: The morality of operating system security Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-05-12 17:46 -0400
Re: The morality of operating system security James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-15 00:11 +0100
Re: The morality of operating system security James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 07:44 +0100
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