Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused

From	Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused
Date	2016-03-25 07:30 +0100
Organization	Good company
Message-ID	<nd2lnf$bpl$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References	<3d1f9bd1-4e8f-415d-b9cd-363cadfa7fcc@googlegroups.com> <74b40c6b-b632-433f-8aeb-e8ec2e0eb571@googlegroups.com>

Show all headers | View raw

Dne 25/03/2016 v 04:11 James McGinn napsal(a):
> On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 1:54:25 PM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
>>
> Science is confused about water because they are confused about
> polarity.   They see polarity as a function of "polar' bonds
> (a "polar" bond is a covalent bond that has an electronegativity
> difference).  It's not that simple.  Many molecules have "polar"
> bonds but are not polar (they are not dipoles).  A polar molecule
> is asymmetrical in addition to having electronegativity differences.
> And where it really gets confusing is when you consider that
> with water (and only with water) symmetry is variable--AND ACTUALLY
> VARIES AS A CONSEQUENCE OF HYDROGEN BONDING! 

Hydrogen bonds are not able to make H2O molecule linear.

A molecule need not to have a dipole moment to be polar.

CO2 molecule, even if linear and without dipole moment,
is still polar because of local polarities
and local dipole moments.

Liquid or supercritical CO2 is used as a polar solvent,
e.g. for extraction of polar caffeine from coffee.

-- 
Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )

Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.

Thread

Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 20:11 -0700
  Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-03-25 07:30 +0100
    Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-25 05:10 -0700
      Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-03-26 10:25 +0100
        Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused Bojana Kudryavtseva <bojkud@rtyn56h67i.org> - 2016-03-26 10:33 +0000
          Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-26 10:36 -0400
            Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-03-27 05:04 +0200
              Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-03-28 05:12 +0200
                Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-03-28 21:37 +0200
                Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused Ewan <iq49j@noemail.edu> - 2016-03-28 19:52 +0000
                Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-03-30 06:38 +0200
                Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-29 20:02 +0200
        Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-26 09:04 -0700
          Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-03-26 17:13 +0100
            Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-26 09:36 -0700
            Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-03-26 23:54 -0700
      Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-03-26 11:39 +0100
        Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-26 09:10 -0700
          Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-03-27 14:02 -0700
            Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-03-29 18:49 -0500
  Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-03-25 18:20 +0000
    Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-25 13:04 -0700
      Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-03-26 18:05 +0000
        Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-26 11:19 -0700
          Re: Why Water Researchers Are Confused jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-03-27 05:09 +0000

csiph-web