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Re: The challenge Ralph Rabbidge aka Henry Wilson never met

From Iephthae Sparrow <yvosp@gideoncloud.net>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: The challenge Ralph Rabbidge aka Henry Wilson never met
Date 2016-03-13 18:58 +0000
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Tom Roberts wrote:

> On 3/13/16 3/13/16   7:00 AM, Iephthae Sparrow wrote:
>> Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>>
>>>    But the satellite is monitored by ground stations, and the clock
>>>    error is measured. The error, called the "clock offset",
>>>    is uploaded to the satellite typically once a day.
>>>    The satellite will transmit this "clock offset" together with the
>>>    "clock time". The correction is made in the receiver, the corrected
>>>    "reported time" = "clock time"-"clock offset".
>>
>> Fine, you just gave the proof that no relativistic corrections take
>> place.
>> This is pure software engineering.
> 
> This is no "proof" at all, and only to idiots like yourself (who don't
> actually understand the GPS and have not investigated at all) would
> think so. There is PHYSICS underlying the software.

Why are you calling me an idiot, when I am doing GPS every day etc. GPS is 
pure software engineering. What is been said for years, you realize just 
now, that there are indeed NO relativistic corrections done at the level 
of SV segment (space vehicle, the satellite). Paul Bullshit Andersen is 
perfectly correct, there are offsets due to various DRIFTS, so the 
subtraction would be PRESENT in any case, Relativity concerns or not, from 
an Engineering software implementation. End of story, live with it.

> Physics is a QUANTITATIVE science, and the quantities involved are quite
> different:
>     Rate modification to the satellite clocks: ~38 us/day Typical
>     satellite clock offset variation:  1-3 ns/day
> These differ by more than a factor of 10,000.

Cut the crap, various drifts are there, inspite of relativity, existent or 
not. Koobee Woobee said from the beginning that is a software concern.

> Stupid and ignorant GUESSES by idiots like you are not useful.
> Tom Roberts

Yes, proofably you are, not knowing how the engineering stuff is done in 
the field.

Assume no Relativity Effects takes place. Same algorithms and module would 
be used. Unchanged from what is actually used TODAY.

Hopefully you just got a lesson in GPS you never gonna forget.

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The challenge Ralph Rabbidge aka Henry Wilson never met "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-05 12:36 +0100
  Re: The challenge Ralph Rabbidge aka Henry Wilson never met pcardinale@volcanomail.com - 2016-03-05 07:23 -0800
  Re: The challenge Ralph Rabbidge aka Henry Wilson never met HGW <hgw@...> - 2016-03-06 09:42 +1100
    Re: The challenge Ralph Rabbidge aka Henry Wilson never met Helene Swanhild <helenes@gardenclosure.org> - 2016-03-05 23:02 +0000
      Re: The challenge Ralph Rabbidge aka Henry Wilson never met Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-05 15:27 -0800
        Re: The challenge Ralph Rabbidge aka Henry Wilson never met Helene Swanhild <helenes@gardenclosure.org> - 2016-03-05 23:31 +0000
    Re: The challenge Ralph Rabbidge aka Henry Wilson never met Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-05 15:26 -0800
    Re: The challenge Ralph Rabbidge aka Henry Wilson never met "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-06 13:14 +0100
      Re: The challenge Ralph Rabbidge aka Henry Wilson never met Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-07 19:09 +0000
        Re: The challenge Ralph Rabbidge aka Henry Wilson never met "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-07 22:15 +0100
          Re: The challenge Ralph Rabbidge aka Henry Wilson never met Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-08 19:08 +0000
            Re: The challenge Ralph Rabbidge aka Henry Wilson never met "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-09 20:46 +0100
              Re: The challenge Ralph Rabbidge aka Henry Wilson never met HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-10 08:08 +1100
                Re: The challenge Ralph Rabbidge aka Henry Wilson never met "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-10 14:25 +0100
                Re: The challenge Ralph Rabbidge aka Henry Wilson never met Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-12 19:07 +0000
                Re: The challenge Ralph Rabbidge aka Henry Wilson never met Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-12 14:48 -0800
                Re: The challenge Ralph Rabbidge aka Henry Wilson never met Iephthae Sparrow <yvosp@gideoncloud.net> - 2016-03-13 14:08 +0000
                Re: The challenge Ralph Rabbidge aka Henry Wilson never met "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-13 09:52 +0100
                Re: The challenge Ralph Rabbidge aka Henry Wilson never met Iephthae Sparrow <yvosp@gideoncloud.net> - 2016-03-13 12:00 +0000
                Re: The challenge Ralph Rabbidge aka Henry Wilson never met "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-13 14:14 +0100
                Re: The challenge Ralph Rabbidge aka Henry Wilson never met Iephthae Sparrow <yvosp@gideoncloud.net> - 2016-03-13 13:45 +0000
                Re: The challenge Ralph Rabbidge aka Henry Wilson never met Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-03-13 13:15 -0500
                Re: The challenge Ralph Rabbidge aka Henry Wilson never met Iephthae Sparrow <yvosp@gideoncloud.net> - 2016-03-13 18:58 +0000
                Re: The challenge Ralph Rabbidge aka Henry Wilson never met Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-03-14 11:07 -0500
                Re: The challenge Ralph Rabbidge aka Henry Wilson never met Iephthae Sparrow <yvosp@gideoncloud.net> - 2016-03-14 17:45 +0000
                Re: The challenge Ralph Rabbidge aka Henry Wilson never met paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 11:03 -0700
                Re: The challenge Ralph Rabbidge aka Henry Wilson never met HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-15 05:49 +1100
  Re: The challenge Ralph Rabbidge aka Henry Wilson never met Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 23:29 -0800
    Re: The challenge Ralph Rabbidge aka Henry Wilson never met "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-06 13:13 +0100

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