Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere

From	Sergio <invalid@invalid.com>
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Subject	Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere
Date	2016-03-11 16:15 -0600
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On 3/11/2016 3:39 PM, James McGinn wrote:

>
> How do we get from how the Sun works to how the jet streams perform
> in the atmosphere of the Earth. Bob Johnson begins by saying space is
> not a vacuum (as once thought) but is filled with plasma.

space has plasma, ions, atoms, molecules in it, this has been known for 
decades.

> The
> atmosphere of the Earth is not an electrified insulator either - but
> a weak plasma.

Atmosphere is an insulator, that is why we have lightning, the 
insluation of air breaking down.

no, it is gas. the plasma combines with air.

> This is an important point as it enables the Sun to
> play around with our weather - which is a fundamental change in
> thinking. Plasma can form cells and filaments and behaves differently
> to other gases.

in a vaccum, not in air.

> It
> explains everything about plasma (well, almost) and how it is capable
> of conducting electricity.

in evacuated tubes, no air. or in outter space.

>
> The solar wind plasma is deflected by the Earth's magnetic field and
> this induces a complex system of electric currents which input energy
> to the magnetosphere and the ionosphere. The input depends on the
> velocity of the solar wind and the presence of a plasma filled solar
> wind interacts with the plasma in the Earth's atmosphere (and
> ionosphere).

very high up.

>
> Later, when looking at jet streams, which are quite narrow bands, he
> says they behave somewhat like plasma - or are influenced by plasma.

wrong. not influenced by plasma, plasma to light to influence large 
volume of air.

> In addition, sea water is an insulator

Wrong. sea water good conductor, it has salt in it, everyone knows that.

I can see where you got the mis-information on Plasma, this guy is wrong 
on it extending so far down into the atmosphere, to jet streams.

Aurora Borealis is your plasma particals slamming into the atmosphere 
recombining with O or N

for study tonight, read up on the ionosphere, how it is created, and how 
it fluxuates up and down.

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Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 13:39 -0800
  Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-03-11 16:15 -0600
    Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 23:22 +0100
    Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 14:27 -0800
      Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-03-11 17:05 -0600
        Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 15:29 -0800
          Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-03-11 18:14 -0600
          Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 18:16 -0600
            Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 17:03 -0800
              Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 19:21 -0600
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 17:41 -0800
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-03-11 20:23 -0600
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 08:14 -0800
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-03-12 10:19 -0600
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 08:41 -0800
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-03-12 11:10 -0600
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 09:23 -0800
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-03-12 12:32 -0600
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 10:58 -0800
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 12:34 -0800
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 13:51 -0800
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-03-12 19:13 -0600
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 23:51 -0800
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-13 04:52 -0400
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-13 01:11 -0800
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-03-13 19:25 -0700
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-13 20:32 -0700
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 17:23 -0700
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 11:54 -0700
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 21:16 -0700
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-24 05:43 +0100
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 07:50 +0100
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 08:51 -0500
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-03-24 20:28 -0500
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-14 04:34 +0100
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-13 21:28 -0700
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-14 06:21 +0100
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-13 22:58 -0700
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-14 07:13 +0100
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-03-13 22:11 -0700
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-14 07:24 +0100
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-03-13 23:41 -0700
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-14 17:00 +0100
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-14 06:27 -0600
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 01:31 -0700
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 09:29 -0500
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 09:20 -0700
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-24 18:46 +0100
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 11:08 -0700
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-25 06:26 +0100
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 00:48 -0400
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-03-13 21:36 -0500
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-03-14 13:45 -0700
                biwaters noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 16:33 -0700
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 12:01 -0800
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-03-13 22:49 -0500
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-03-14 13:41 -0700
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 14:21 -0700
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-03-14 13:31 -0700
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 14:20 -0700
                Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-03-14 16:51 -0500
            Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 18:02 -0800
            Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 07:56 -0800
  Re: Bob Johnson: Plasma in the Atmosphere Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 17:01 -0600

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