Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record
Date	2016-03-04 12:00 -0600
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On 3/4/2016 11:49 AM, john wrote:
> Why don't we compare 10 atheists' last words
> with 10 theists' last words?
> No cherry-picking- first 10 of each that list
> according to an agreed formula?
>
> Let's do it, Odd!!
> You're a scientist
>

Depends on who's compiling the list. If it's a list of atheists' last 
words compiled by a theist, don't you think that would be buying into 
some selection bias?

Here's what a scientist would do:
Collect the last words from a random sample of the population, with no 
information in the sample selection about whether they are theist or 
atheist.
Categorize the last words of the sample.
THEN pull the information about whether they are theist or atheist, and 
now see if there is a difference in the statements.

But aside from the cluelessness you have about scientific studies, what 
makes you think that last words have any more inherent truth value than 
non-last words?
Would someone uttering their last words have any particular reason to 
lie less?
Would someone uttering their last words have any particular reason to 
reveal previously hidden information?
If someone says something in their last words that is aspirational or 
reflects their hopes or even their firm beliefs, is there any reason to 
think that any of those thoughts represent truth?

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Hubble breaks cosmic distance record Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 20:20 -0600
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  Hubble breaks cosmic distance record HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 03:32 -0800
    Hubble breaks cosmic distance record jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-03-04 06:06 -0800
    Hubble breaks cosmic distance record HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 06:27 -0800
      Hubble breaks cosmic distance record john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 07:21 -0800
        Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 09:31 -0600
          Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 07:35 -0800
            Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 07:50 -0800
              Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 07:58 -0800
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 08:20 -0800
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 08:45 -0800
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 13:42 -0500
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 10:58 -0600
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 09:06 -0800
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 09:12 -0800
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 09:49 -0800
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                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 10:32 -0800
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 14:46 -0500
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 13:32 -0500
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 13:27 -0500
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 11:22 -0600
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 09:44 -0800
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 13:29 -0500
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 09:49 -0800
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 09:51 -0800
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 13:29 -0500
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 12:00 -0600
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 10:06 -0800
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 12:15 -0600
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 11:04 -0800
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 14:24 -0500
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 13:47 -0600
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 14:36 -0500
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-03-04 18:16 +0000
              Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 13:48 -0500
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 11:32 -0800
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 01:09 -0500
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 22:28 -0800
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 22:31 -0800
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 02:23 -0500
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 03:54 -0800
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            Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 11:50 -0600
              Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 10:20 -0800
            Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-03-04 13:27 -0800
              Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 13:55 -0800
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 16:02 -0600
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 14:17 -0800
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 17:19 -0600
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-03-04 14:44 -0800
                Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 01:31 -0500
          Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-03-04 11:59 -0800
            Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-03-04 12:25 -0800
        Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 09:41 -0600
          Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-05 12:07 +0100
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      Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 14:42 -0500
  Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 14:38 -0800
    Re: Hubble breaks cosmic distance record Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 17:01 -0600

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