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Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks !

From Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks !
Date 2016-03-02 20:01 +0000
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On Wed, 02 Mar 2016 09:22:48 -0600, Tom Roberts wrote:

> On 3/1/16 3/1/16 - 8:54 PM, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
>> There seem to be several cases besides the local strength of gravity or
>> relative motion of the nearest reference frame to establish conditions
>> of configuration and precision (or energy)
>> of experiment leads to time dilation or clock skew.
> 
> There are, and they are described accurately by GR.

Nonsense. That has never been proved. 

There is no known physical object that will not change somehow when 
relieved of gravity. Not only that, the cesium atoms in a GPS clock are 
cutting the Earth's gravity field lines at 4km/sec rather than at 0.5 km/
sec at the equator. The clocks obviously physically change when sent into 
orbit. It would be a miracle if they did not.  The rate and reading of 
each GPS clock is software corrected after being sent into orbit in order 
to bring it into line with all clocks involved. Subsequently, only minor 
daily adjustments are required. 

IF CESIUM ATOMS WERE AS STABLE AS TOM SEEMS TO BELIEVE, THE CLOCKS WOULD 
NOT DRIFT AT ALL AND NO ADJUSTMENTS DAILY CORRECTIONS WOULD BE NEEDED.

The initial adjustment is a difficult task because the orbits themselves 
have to be known very accurately and those are determined largely from 
the travel times of signals themselves. 
 
The fundamental requirement for the successful operation of the GPS 
system is that all orbiting clocks must be in absolute synch with each 
other. Any error in ground clock reading cancels out in the calculations. 
Fortunately for all, the inclusion of the notorious 'GR correction' does 
not destroy the system because the actual rate at which the clocks run is 
quite arbitrary. 

Being able to associate GR with the GPS system was certainly a great coup 
at the time for desperate dingleberries. It is now known to be totally 
unnecessary and nothing but a joke...There are no cesium clocks in the GPS 
wristbands one can buy on ebay for 50 dollars.

Tom should understand that by now. It has been explained to him many 
times...but maybe he is incapable of learning...

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