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Re: Richard Saykally, UC Berkely Professor, Unable to Dispute Hydrogen Bonding as Mechanism That Neuttralizes H2O Polarity

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On 2/29/2016 1:31 PM, pnalsing@gmail.com wrote:
> 4. Dr. Saykally responds with much more restraint (and much less emotion than your own comments
> had) than most people would, saying ... "Jim...I am surprised at your incivility!  This is just
> science.....not a prize fight!   The way our business works is that one who argues that a given
> model is incorrect and proposes a new one to replace it must also propose an experimental test
> that can clearly evidence the claims."
>
> 5. This is exactly what most people on this forum have been telling you all along...
>
> "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan.
>
> 6. You keep DEMANDING that anyone who disagrees with you must prove their position to YOU, but
> the reality of the scientific community is just the reverse.
>
> There is no way in the world that I, or anyone else, needs to provide, as you have stated, "a
> substantive dispute with my hypothesis". The burden of proof lies squarely on you own shoulders.
> If you do not agree with this perspective, well, it only goes to show that you have little
> knowledge of the Scientific Method, and is just another bullet in the gun that claims you are not
> a physicist at all, but just another crackpot seeking attention. Not that you are alone in this
> regard, you have plenty of company on these forums.
>
> If you can't walk the walk and talk the talk, you shouldn't be making these extraordinary claims
> to begin with, at least not in public. It is pretty obvious that you don't have the math and
> chemistry chops to fool anybody.
>
> What do you think this indicates?
>
> Think about it.

What you lay out for Jim, however, involves work. This is not in fact 
what he wants to do. Instead, he is happy to banter and bluster, because 
it's not really the scientific point he's interested in, but rather some 
attention.

He's been highly successful with his banter/bluster tactics at 
sustaining attention, even if it means resurrecting old conversations or 
replying to himself.

It doesn't even matter anymore if all he gets is stony silence, since 
he's gotten to the point where he can amuse himself in his own mud. Now, 
there's only the question of whether you want to crawl in there with him.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Re: Richard Saykally, UC Berkely Professor, Unable to Dispute Hydrogen Bonding as Mechanism That Neuttralizes H2O Polarity James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 19:45 -0800
  Re: Richard Saykally, UC Berkely Professor, Unable to Dispute Hydrogen Bonding as Mechanism That Neuttralizes H2O Polarity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-28 20:01 -0800
    Re: Richard Saykally, UC Berkely Professor, Unable to Dispute Hydrogen Bonding as Mechanism That Neuttralizes H2O Polarity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-28 20:06 -0800
      Re: Richard Saykally, UC Berkely Professor, Unable to Dispute Hydrogen Bonding as Mechanism That Neuttralizes H2O Polarity James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 20:26 -0800
    Re: Richard Saykally, UC Berkely Professor, Unable to Dispute Hydrogen Bonding as Mechanism That Neuttralizes H2O Polarity James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 20:24 -0800
      Re: Richard Saykally, UC Berkely Professor, Unable to Dispute Hydrogen Bonding as Mechanism That Neuttralizes H2O Polarity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-28 21:18 -0800
        Re: Richard Saykally, UC Berkely Professor, Unable to Dispute Hydrogen Bonding as Mechanism That Neuttralizes H2O Polarity Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 21:52 -0800
          Re: Richard Saykally, UC Berkely Professor, Unable to Dispute Hydrogen Bonding as Mechanism That Neuttralizes H2O Polarity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-28 22:33 -0800
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              Re: Richard Saykally, UC Berkely Professor, Unable to Dispute Hydrogen Bonding as Mechanism That Neuttralizes H2O Polarity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-29 11:06 -0600
                Re: Richard Saykally, UC Berkely Professor, Unable to Dispute Hydrogen Bonding as Mechanism That Neuttralizes H2O Polarity James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 10:16 -0800
              Re: Richard Saykally, UC Berkely Professor, Unable to Dispute Hydrogen Bonding as Mechanism That Neuttralizes H2O Polarity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-29 11:31 -0800
                Re: Richard Saykally, UC Berkely Professor, Unable to Dispute Hydrogen Bonding as Mechanism That Neuttralizes H2O Polarity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 13:46 -0600
                Re: Richard Saykally, UC Berkely Professor, Unable to Dispute Hydrogen Bonding as Mechanism That Neuttralizes H2O Polarity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-29 12:03 -0800
                Re: Richard Saykally, UC Berkely Professor, Unable to Dispute Hydrogen Bonding as Mechanism That Neuttralizes H2O Polarity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 14:17 -0600
                Re: Richard Saykally, UC Berkely Professor, Unable to Dispute Hydrogen Bonding as Mechanism That Neuttralizes H2O Polarity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-29 12:23 -0800
                Re: Richard Saykally, UC Berkely Professor, Unable to Dispute Hydrogen Bonding as Mechanism That Neuttralizes H2O Polarity Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 12:57 -0800
                Re: Richard Saykally, UC Berkely Professor, Unable to Dispute Hydrogen Bonding as Mechanism That Neuttralizes H2O Polarity jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-29 21:24 +0000
                Re: Richard Saykally, UC Berkely Professor, Unable to Dispute Hydrogen Bonding as Mechanism That Neuttralizes H2O Polarity James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 14:57 -0800
                Re: Richard Saykally, UC Berkely Professor, Unable to Dispute Hydrogen Bonding as Mechanism That Neuttralizes H2O Polarity jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-29 23:52 +0000
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                Re: Richard Saykally, UC Berkely Professor, Unable to Dispute Hydrogen Bonding as Mechanism That Neuttralizes H2O Polarity jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-29 20:24 +0000
            Re: Richard Saykally, UC Berkely Professor, Unable to Dispute Hydrogen Bonding as Mechanism That Neuttralizes H2O Polarity James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 08:40 -0800
              Re: Richard Saykally, UC Berkely Professor, Unable to Dispute Hydrogen Bonding as Mechanism That Neuttralizes H2O Polarity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-29 11:13 -0600
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                Re: Richard Saykally, UC Berkely Professor, Unable to Dispute Hydrogen Bonding as Mechanism That Neuttralizes H2O Polarity James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 11:43 -0800
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        Re: Richard Saykally, UC Berkely Professor, Unable to Dispute Hydrogen Bonding as Mechanism That Neuttralizes H2O Polarity James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 08:45 -0800
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            Re: Richard Saykally, UC Berkely Professor, Unable to Dispute Hydrogen Bonding as Mechanism That Neuttralizes H2O Polarity James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 11:42 -0800
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