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Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now

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On 2/23/2016 8:25 PM, James McGinn wrote:
> One thing you all have to keep in mind is that I've known about this
> mosconception for 25 years now.  So I've had a lot more time to
> reconcile all the anecdotal evidence that you all keep tripping
> over.
>
> Let's say, for purposes of argument, that I am wrong.  We can then
> ask ourselves how or where did I make a mistake.  I can think of only
> one thing.  And that would be that I had miscalculated the effect of
> air molecules on water clusters/droplets.  Do air molecules in the
> atmosphere--in contrast to what I am assuming--possess some ability
> to break up water clusters/droplets and force them to remain gaseous
> at ambient temps?

yes, yes, yes.  there are several ways to think of it.

one way is as a liquid progressing and arriving at a gas.
Liquid- all the molecules are connected, touching each other
Gas - all molecules are apart  (think a hot gas)

so there is middle ground where their are clusters, and the clusters 
very in size from two molecules to millions, depending upon pressure and 
temperature.  then larger to a fog, or cloud where you have droplets. It 
is not a sudden transition, we tend to see it that way because we are 
much bigger, and dont observe at the boiling surface in detail.  Note 
when boiling, the bubbles are water vapor leaving the liquid.

in your theory, what is in the bubbles when boiling?

it is the same for all the other types of molecules, like ethanol going 
from liquid to gas.  They teach this in Chem and some in physics.
Water has slight polarity which adds to its feature set

If you stay with your theory, then you cannot dry your clothes, there is 
no way to get the liquid water off.

so your theory gets you labeled as a Ko0k delusional troll and you can 
keep trolling on.

so mentally zoom in to the water surface, and see water molecules 
constantly leaving the surface.  How many and how fast depends upon 
temperature and pressure. Many leave in clumps too. as the water gets 
hot and steams before boiling, the steam is the clumps, and the clumps 
separate into individual molecules and continue on.

Then there is another statistical explanation which agrees with all 
data, but is complicated for you.

all this work was done decades ago, fully understood and verified, 
tested and all kinds of equipment made using the effects of water.

so your "no water vapor", would cause all kinds of problems with all 
kinds of Machines that use water.  But they work fine, because there is 
water vapor and humidity all over the place, everywhere, even in your 
nose and ears, and lungs, and on your eyeballs, fingers, keyboard.

a good learning lesson for you. if it is too much, read it again for the 
first time.


Biggus

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I've known about this misconception for 25 years now James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 18:25 -0800
  Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-24 02:45 +0000
    Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 13:26 -0800
      Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-24 22:53 +0000
  Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-23 18:53 -0800
    Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 06:33 +0100
      Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 08:09 -0600
        Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 07:21 -0800
  Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-23 21:47 -0600
  Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 23:21 -0600
  Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 09:07 -0800
    Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-24 11:24 -0600
    Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 11:33 -0600
      Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-24 18:34 +0000
        Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-24 12:02 -0800
          Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-24 14:28 -0600
          Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-24 20:36 +0000
        Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 13:11 -0800
          Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-24 22:58 +0000
            Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 17:26 -0800
              Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-25 02:18 +0000
    Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-24 18:30 +0000
      Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 13:30 -0800
        Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-24 15:39 -0600
        Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-24 23:00 +0000
          Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 17:28 -0800
            Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-25 02:23 +0000
        Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-24 15:33 -0800
          Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 17:32 -0800
            Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-25 02:24 +0000
            Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-24 19:14 -0800
            5/2 decades of noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 14:16 -0800
            Re: I've known about this misconception for 25 years now Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-25 16:37 -0600

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