Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging
Date	2016-02-23 08:04 -0600
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On 2/22/2016 3:38 PM, pnalsing@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 12:37:41 PM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:

>>
>> Obviously you are intellectually incapable of recognizing the distinction between evaporate (liquid H2O) and gaseous H2O.
>> Your delusion runs so deep that multiple times you have claimed that Schlieren imaging proves that moist air contains
>> gaseous H2O.  Strangely you seem to recognize that Schlieren imaging involves refraction.  Strangely you seem to be emotionally
>> incapable of grasping the fact that refraction must involve microdroplets, not gaseous H2O.  Possibly you are emotionally
>> incapable of distinguishing between evaporate and gaseous H2O.  I don't know. And I don't care.  Why don't you see if you
>> can find a professional that can help you with that distinction.
>
> You don't really know much physics at all, this is clear to anyone who has ever taken even a freshman physics class.
>
> To claim that gases have no index of refraction is beyond belief. Have you never seen a red sunset? This first link blows
> you completely out of the water...

He's an idiot.
Two common applications of gaseous refraction:
1. Surveyors in long pipes will frequently evacuate the pipe to 
eliminate temperature-gradient refraction by the gas (or even 
density-gradient for tall enough pipes), which is not solved by pumping 
in a dry gas like CO2 or N2.
2. Timing of the sunrise or sunset shows that the sun actually is 
visible for a while before it rises and for a while after it actually 
sets, and this is accompanied by larger apparent angular speed near the 
horizon. This is directly related to atmospheric refraction, even from 
the regions of the atmosphere too cold to support liquid droplets of water.

>
> http://web.mit.edu/ytc/www/HLMA/Ref/opticsPaper02.pdf
>
> ... but there are literally thousands and thousands more...
>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=index+of+refraction+for+gases&oq=index+of+refraction+for+gases&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8
>

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 12:37 -0800
  Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-22 15:03 -0600
  Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-22 13:38 -0800
    Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 14:07 -0800
      Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-22 22:35 +0000
        Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 15:03 -0800
          Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-23 00:12 +0000
            Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 16:32 -0800
              Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-23 00:54 +0000
                Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 17:22 -0800
                Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-23 02:21 +0000
                Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 18:48 -0800
                Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-23 03:36 +0000
                Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 20:26 -0800
                Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-23 07:19 +0000
                Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 10:39 -0800
                Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-23 13:05 -0600
                Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-23 20:12 +0000
      Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-22 15:56 -0800
        Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-23 00:13 +0000
        Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 16:17 -0800
          Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-22 21:05 -0800
            Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 21:56 -0800
              Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-23 07:21 +0000
                Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 10:46 -0800
                Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-23 20:14 +0000
              Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-23 08:34 -0600
        Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-02-23 06:05 +0000
          Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 22:14 -0800
            Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-22 22:23 -0800
              Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 22:50 -0800
            Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-23 07:25 +0000
              Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 10:46 -0800
                Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-23 13:06 -0600
                Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-23 20:15 +0000
            Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 10:19 -0600
            Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-02-23 18:01 +0000
              Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 11:03 -0800
                Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-23 20:19 +0000
              he gave the limit of a stage of suction pumping of water, at sea level noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 17:02 -0800
          Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2016-02-23 06:16 +0000
            Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 22:52 -0800
      Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 16:34 -0800
        Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 19:46 -0500
    Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 08:04 -0600
      Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 10:34 -0800
        Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-23 20:21 +0000
          Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 12:52 -0800
            Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-23 15:31 -0800
              Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 15:57 -0800
                Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-24 00:42 +0000
                Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-23 16:57 -0800
            Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-24 00:38 +0000
              Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 16:53 -0800
                Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-24 01:15 +0000
                Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 15:09 -0800
                Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-26 23:20 +0000
                Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 15:38 -0800
                Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-26 23:51 +0000
                Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 18:30 -0800
                Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-27 03:50 +0000
          Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 16:04 -0800
            Re: Penino's continuing lunace about Schlieren Imaging jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-24 00:53 +0000
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