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Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT

From flatfish+++ <flatfish@songwriter.net>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT
Date 2016-02-22 19:14 +0000
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On Mon, 22 Feb 2016 13:07:35 -0500, Slimer wrote:

> On 2016-02-22 12:49 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Feb 2016 12:25:51 -0500, Slimer wrote:
>>
>>> On 2016-02-21 7:57 PM, owl wrote:
>>>> Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On 2016-02-21 1:07 PM, owl wrote:
>>>>>> Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2016-02-21 11:08 AM, owl wrote:
>>>>>>>> Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 11:46:08 PM UTC+9, owl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, February 20, 2016 at 10:56:33 PM UTC+9, John
>>>>>>>>>>> Gohde wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, February 20, 2016 at 8:15:00 AM UTC-5, Takuya
>>>>>>>>>>>> Saitoh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, February 19, 2016 at 10:52:39 AM UTC+9, Takuya
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saitoh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 11:04:46 PM UTC+9, John
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gohde wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 8:03:53 AM UTC-5, Takuya
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saitoh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 8:34:57 PM UTC+9, John
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gohde wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 1:42:17 AM UTC-5,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Takuya Saitoh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 11:54:57 AM UTC+9,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John Gohde wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 9:26:27 PM UTC-5,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 4:31:10 PM UTC-5,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jebbush.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who needs or wants another Bush?  Certainly NOT Moi.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeb has some good ideas at that link.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps, if the moronic pigeon were to focus?  Who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs or wants another Bush?  Certainly NOT Moi.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The dumbass apparently did not click on that link...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Too bad that the joke is NOT remotely funny. Too bad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that owl is a moron.  Too bad that you suck!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PLEASE!  Blow you brains out and be quick about it. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would Gohde go for the Brooklyn Bridge if Trump doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get elected or ends the Kennedy way?  It's 'bout time,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jack, yo VitD steroid shots are just a dead cat bounce...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zombie!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They won't let him win:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump Vows: 'Elect Me And You'll Find Out Who Really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Knocked Down The Twin Towers'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELiIWAkmZ8w
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Electing Trump is a Sign of Desperation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vote for Trump is a Vote for War. He is most like Napoleon
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL -- Trump is an isolationist, Putz!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Do you really support a multimillionaire corporate scumbag who
>>>>>>>>>>> acts like an overgrown 13-year-old William Shatner on steroids
>>>>>>>>>>> and makes loony instant snap decisions on important matters,
>>>>>>>>>>> and his colossal ego never backs down from them even when
>>>>>>>>>>> proven wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes.  Star Track rules.  Shatner should be Trump's VP.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Is it just because he's making a chaotic mess of American
>>>>>>>>>>> politics, and that's funny to you?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes.  Trump is cleaning up the mess of American politics.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Is it because he's such a fucking nut that he's likely to
>>>>>>>>>>> start World War III within weeks of being elected, and you
>>>>>>>>>>> want the doom?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes.  He will do it right.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Is it because there are so many racists here that you'll
>>>>>>>>>>> gladly elect the most openly racist Presidential candidate
>>>>>>>>>>> since Wallace, and put up with the disaster he will make of
>>>>>>>>>>> everything else?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes.  Muslim is not a race.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Is it because he loves to engage in trolling and flamewars on
>>>>>>>>>>> facebook and twitter like some tard in his parents' basement
>>>>>>>>>>> with the new phone his mommy bought him, and therefore you can
>>>>>>>>>>> relate to him?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes.  It's not trolling if it's true.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's been looong time since last World War so people badly need
>>>>>>>>> the next one.  But this one will be the LAST one, nukes can be
>>>>>>>>> used just once....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We didn't have a nuclear war under Reagan or the Bushes.  I think
>>>>>>>> that threat has passed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think the whole world (except North Korea) understands the
>>>>>>> concept of mutually assured destruction.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> That whole "North Korea's got nukes" thing is bullshit.
>>>>>
>>>>> They actually might have nukes, but they definitely don't have food.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But I think they won't let him become a president, it's just a
>>>>>>>>> distraction for the dumb masses, the pussy will become the next
>>>>>>>>> illuminati puppet...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Trump will slaughter those illuminati losers.
>>>>>>>> http://www.infowars.com/bilderberg-backs-hillary-for-2016-
>> presidency/
>>>>>>>> http://www.infowars.com/top-bilderberger-global-super-elite-must-
>> stop-donald-trump/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm convinced that even if Trump gets nominated and goes all the
>>>>>>> way against Hillary, she will somehow win. Stuffing the ballots is
>>>>>>> definitely an option and assassination is another.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> If Hillary gets the Democrat nomination, Trump can easily win by
>>>>>> taking Bernie as his running mate.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't even think such a thing is possible; Bernie and Trump have
>>>>> absolutely nothing in common.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> They're both outsiders.  They're both anti-Hillary.  It won't matter
>>>> to Trump what Bernie's politics are.  VP has no power whatsoever
>>>> except to break ties in the Senate.  If he can help bring in votes to
>>>> beat Hillary, that's all that matters.
>>>
>>> I see your point but I doubt Comrade Bernie would consider a move to
>>> the Republican camp either way. The idea of actually working scares
>>> him.
>>
>> The USA is so in debt right now, our trade deficit is killing us, China
>> holds a lot of the USA debt, China and others are playing games with
>> devaluing their currency and so forth, the last thing we need is
>> another tax and spend ultra liberal like Bernie.
> 
> No country in the world needs a liberal; liberals do little more than
> destroy everything they touch. Find me a liberal country which can boast
> that it has a strong economy!

Ultra liberalism or ultra socialism for that matter ultimately leads to 
failure and the reason is that those who have no intention of working and 
contributing to society will ultimately weigh the system down to the 
point where those who are working and playing high taxes can no longer 
sustain the parasites.
Basically, you run out of people who can pay the bill.

 >> Bernie is a nice guy who seems honest and hasn't changed his talking
>> points in 20+ years but taxing the rich and creating even more social
>> programs will ruin this country.
>>
>> We also don't need another 4 years of a connected, entrenched in Wall
>> Street  and in this case corrupt politician like Hillary. We had an
>> inept idiot in the White House for the past 8 years and instead of
>> uniting this country he will go down in history as one of the most
>> inept and divisive presidents of modern times.
>>
>> Right now we need someone who is a business person and not afraid to
>> make the tough decisions. That person is Trump. Yes he is rough around
>> the edges and lacks the oil, slickness and grooming of a Rubio or Cruz
>> but he realizes we need to take control of this country before we
>> collapse. We need to unite the two parties. We need to stop being the
>> doormat for the rest of the planet and we certainly need to stop making
>> billion dollar deals, fight wars for and defending people who hate our
>> guts.
>> The number of homeless and ill cared for veterans is staggering.
>> So why are we accepting, with full housing, medical care and so forth,
>> refugees from other countries?
>> This is sick. And it's dead wrong.
>> One doesn't have to be a brainiac to figure that out.
>>
>> We are without doubt the most generous country on the planet but right
>> now, in the present, we are fighting for our lives, economy, safety and
>> so forth so we need to step back and start putting numero uno first and
>> the rest of the world, at least temporarily, on the back burner.
> 
> I just want to see the United States go back to being the country us
> Canadians wish that we were in. In the 1980s, it was the country which
> always seemed to win every Olympic event, which had the best movies, the
> best music and in general seemed so cool that nothing we produced could
> ever match up. It has since become a joke to many of us but it shouldn't
> be.

Political correctness coupled with a tax system that favors exporting 
jobs to other countries has ruined the USA. Our police are afraid to 
confront, arrest, shoot at criminals because they fear the ultra left 
attacking them and ruining their lives just to further a liberal cause.

Our soldiers literally have to ask the enemy if it's alright to shoot at 
them. We warn tanker drivers who are transporting oil to our enemies in 
advance that we are going to blow up their trucks.

This is nuts!

Here in the USA we have a sub-culture who refuse to work, refuse to obey 
the law and sit home collecting welfare checks in addition to their 
criminal activities selling drugs and so forth.

And part of this is the lure of easy money but some of it is cultural as 
well as pure laziness.
Couple this with the fact that decent paying manufacturing jobs are no 
longer a commodity here in USA and it's failed before things even get 
started.
Not every person is college material.
Trades and skilled manufacturing jobs used to be a huge part of the 
economy. Not any more.

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Jeb's got some good ideas owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-02-16 21:31 +0000
  Will America become Utopia? Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 17:48 -0800
    Re: Will America become Utopia? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-02-18 02:14 +0000
  Re: Jeb's got some good ideas John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 18:16 -0800
    Re: Jeb's got some good ideas owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-02-18 02:26 +0000
      Re: Jeb's got some good ideas John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 18:54 -0800
        Re: Jeb's got some good ideas Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 22:42 -0800
          Re: Jeb's got some good ideas John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 03:34 -0800
            Re: Jeb's got some good ideas Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 05:03 -0800
              Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 06:04 -0800
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 17:52 -0800
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 05:14 -0800
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 05:56 -0800
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 01:03 -0800
                Try focusing, Putz! John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 05:35 -0800
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-02-21 14:46 +0000
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 07:16 -0800
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 07:20 -0800
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 07:18 -0800
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-02-21 16:08 +0000
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 08:53 -0800
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-02-21 18:03 +0000
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-02-21 11:59 -0500
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-02-21 18:07 +0000
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-02-21 19:02 -0500
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-02-22 00:57 +0000
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-02-22 12:25 -0500
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT flatfish+++ <flatfish@songwriter.net> - 2016-02-22 17:49 +0000
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-02-22 13:07 -0500
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT flatfish+++ <flatfish@songwriter.net> - 2016-02-22 19:14 +0000
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-02-22 15:27 -0500
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT flatfish+++ <flatfish@songwriter.net> - 2016-02-22 22:23 +0000
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-02-22 17:04 -0500
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT flatfish+++ <flatfish@songwriter.net> - 2016-02-22 22:22 +0000
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-02-22 20:44 -0500
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT flatfish+++ <flatfish@songwriter.net> - 2016-02-23 02:20 +0000
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-02-23 09:44 -0500
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-23 06:48 -0600
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-02-23 09:49 -0500
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 19:28 +0000
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-02-23 20:04 +0000
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-23 14:21 -0600
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-02-24 00:10 +0000
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT "Henry" <henry@alpha.org> - 2016-02-24 01:50 +0100
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT flatfish+++ <flatfish@songwriter.net> - 2016-02-24 13:20 +0000
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT flatfish+++ <flatfish@songwriter.net> - 2016-02-24 13:19 +0000
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-03-22 12:16 -0700
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-02-24 10:54 -0500
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT flatfish+++ <flatfish@songwriter.net> - 2016-02-24 16:26 +0000
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 09:41 -0800
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-02-23 09:33 -0500
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT flatfish+++ <flatfish@songwriter.net> - 2016-02-23 14:44 +0000
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-02-23 10:00 -0500
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-03-22 12:15 -0700
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-02-23 10:19 -0500
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-02-22 17:27 -0500
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT "Delgato" <delgato@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 02:20 +0100
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-02-23 09:32 -0500
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-02-22 19:09 +0000
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT flatfish+++ <flatfish@songwriter.net> - 2016-02-22 19:20 +0000
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-02-22 19:44 +0000
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT flatfish+++ <flatfish@songwriter.net> - 2016-02-22 22:14 +0000
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-02-22 15:29 -0500
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-02-22 15:23 -0500
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-02-21 10:20 -0500
                Re: Jeb's got some good ideas - NOT owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-02-21 16:24 +0000
  Jeb Bush's best idea John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 10:19 -0800
    Re: Jeb Bush's best idea Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 17:22 -0800

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