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Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla!

From Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Newsgroups alt.comp.software.thunderbird, alt.comp.software.firefox
Subject Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla!
Date 2026-06-22 16:49 +0100
Message-ID <n9t3raFt35qU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References (4 earlier) <111b7ri$1g9mj$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> <n9ss9nFrteqU1@mid.individual.net> <111be6s$1i45f$4@toylet.eternal-september.org> <n9suj8Fs6m7U2@mid.individual.net> <111bl5u$1kfm6$2@toylet.eternal-september.org>

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Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

> Users of Firefox does NOT check hashes. They just hit the Updaste button 
> within Firefox and trust the delta update process.

You are the one suggesting *not* using delta upgrades (where TB/FF will 
check the authenticity for you)

Instead you would download the full installer each time ... I was asking 
if you bother to check the hashes on that download or whether you just 
blindly install it and hope it's not been intercepted by $ADVERSARY

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Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 13:30 +0800
  Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 13:35 +0800
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  Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-22 07:23 +0000
    Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! JJ <jj4public@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 17:47 +0700
      Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-22 22:22 +0000
        Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 19:40 +0800
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        Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! JJ <jj4public@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 21:13 +0700
          Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 22:36 +0800
  Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-22 08:35 +0100
    Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 18:53 +0800
      Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-22 12:30 +0100
        Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 19:55 +0800
          Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-06-22 15:40 +0200
            Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 21:43 +0800
              Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-06-22 16:19 +0200
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                Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 23:42 +0800
                Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-22 16:49 +0100
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                Re: Delta updates is dangerous... Bogus Facebook website? Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> - 2026-06-22 19:38 +0200
                Re: Delta updates is dangerous... toys of God? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 01:42 +0800
                Re: Delta updates is dangerous... important? dull? why? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 01:44 +0800
                Re: Delta updates is dangerous... important? dull? why? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-22 19:02 +0100
                Re: Delta updates is dangerous... important? dull? why? Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> - 2026-06-22 20:14 +0200
                Re: Delta updates is dangerous... important? dull? why? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 02:27 +0800
                Re: Delta updates is dangerous... important? dull? why? "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-23 17:55 +0100
                Re: Delta updates is dangerous... important? dull? why? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-06-23 19:15 +0200
                Re: Delta updates is dangerous... important? dull? why? "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-23 18:35 +0100
                Re: Delta updates is dangerous... important? dull? why? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-06-23 17:51 +0000
                Re: Delta updates is dangerous... important? dull? why? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-23 19:04 +0100
                Re: Delta updates is dangerous... important? dull? why? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-06-23 18:39 +0000
                OT: pedestrian crossings (was: Re: Re: Delta updates is dangerous... important? dull? why?) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-23 23:35 +0100
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                Re: toylet.toylet@gmail.com is a complete asshole "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-25 13:27 +0800
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                Re: OT: pedestrian crossings "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-24 13:59 +0100
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                Re: Delta updates is dangerous... important? dull? why? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-24 20:12 +1000
                Re: Delta updates is dangerous... important? dull? why? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-06-24 13:22 +0000
                Re: Delta updates is dangerous... important? dull? why? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-25 00:26 +1000
                Re: Delta updates is dangerous... important? dull? why? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-24 20:07 +1000
                Re: Delta updates is dangerous... gentleman called "God"? english standard in Usenet? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-25 13:32 +0800
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              Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-24 01:36 +0000
                Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 14:21 +0800
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            Re: Delta updates ... Intercepting Firefox delta updates "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 23:39 +0800
              Re: Delta updates ... Intercepting Firefox delta updates Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-22 16:51 +0100
                Re: Delta updates ... Intercepting Firefox delta updates "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 01:18 +0800
                Re: Delta updates ... Intercepting Firefox delta updates Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-24 02:07 +0000
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              Re: Delta updates ... Intercepting Firefox delta updates Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-24 01:35 +0000
      Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-24 01:34 +0000
        Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 14:22 +0800
          Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! JJ <jj4public@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 17:59 +0700
            Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-25 00:09 +0800
          Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-24 21:10 +1000
            Re: Delta updates is ... internet: the old vs the recent "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-25 00:08 +0800
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