Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods

From	Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods
Date	2016-02-15 08:30 +0100
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Dne 15/02/2016 v 02:44 Peter Riedt napsal(a):
> On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 2:09:32 AM UTC+8, Poutnik wrote:
>> Dne 13/02/2016 v 02:10 Peter Riedt napsal(a):
>>> Kepler's 3rd law with adjusted orbital periods
>>>
>>> Kepler's third law in the form t2/r3 gives a constant value. It is a precise law but applying it with the measured values for the orbital periods in seconds for t and the measured semi major axis in metres for r produces results with small differences.
>>>
>>> It suggests that the measured numbers for t and/or r are incorrect. However a small adjustment to the tsec values achieves an identical constant for all nine planets. The adjustments to the tsec values are from -0.065% to +0.002%.
>>>
>>
>> Such adjusting is not proper treatment of measured values
>> with their systematic and random errors.
> 
> Science has advanced since Galileo. Heretics are no longer burned but merely called cranks.
> 

You systematically ignore in all your posts
the statistical aspect of experimental data.

Evaluating the measured data in physical equations
leads at the end to comparison
of 2 inaccurate, but theoretically equal values.

Those values have
estimation of their means
and estimation of their standard deviations.

Than it is evaluated , usually by Ftest,
if the difference is at chosen confidentiality level
statistically significant or not.

IF there are values 0.995 and 1.005,
based on experimental data,
it is not justified to say they are different
without proper statistical analysis of accuracy.

Aside of that, the essential prerequisite is
to get the equations right.

G.( M_s + M_p ) = 4.pi^2 . a_p^3 / T_p^2

where indexes _s and _p stand for Sun and Planet, respectively.

-- 
Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )

Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.

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Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-02-12 17:10 -0800
  Kepler's orbital constaints noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-02-12 19:25 -0800
    Re: Kepler's orbital constaints Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-02-12 20:35 -0800
      Re: Kepler's orbital constaints Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-02-14 22:55 +0100
        Re: Kepler's orbital constaints Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-02-15 16:32 -0800
          Re: Kepler's orbital constaints noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-02-15 16:35 -0800
            Re: Kepler's orbital constaints Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-02-15 16:45 -0800
          Re: Kepler's orbital constaints Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 08:16 +0100
            Re: Kepler's orbital constaints Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-02-16 00:39 -0800
              Re: Kepler's orbital constaints Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 02:16 -0800
          Re: Kepler's orbital constaints Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 07:44 -0600
            Re: Kepler's orbital constaints benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 11:45 -0500
              Re: Kepler's orbital constaints Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 11:53 -0600
            Re: Kepler's orbital constaints Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-02-16 11:04 -0800
              Re: Kepler's orbital constaints Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 22:56 -0600
                Re: Kepler's orbital constaints Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-02-17 17:22 -0800
                Re: Kepler's orbital constaints Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 10:02 -0600
                Re: Kepler's orbital constaints Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-02-18 16:12 -0800
                Re: Kepler's orbital constaints Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 05:51 +0100
                Re: Kepler's orbital constaints Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-02-18 22:10 -0800
                Re: Kepler's orbital constaints Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 07:30 +0100
  Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-13 09:42 -0600
    Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-02-13 16:18 -0800
      Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-14 15:45 -0600
  Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods Timo <timo@physics.uq.edu.au> - 2016-02-13 17:45 -0800
    Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-02-13 19:24 -0800
  Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-02-14 19:09 +0100
    Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-02-14 17:44 -0800
      Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-14 19:50 -0600
      Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-02-15 07:16 +0100
      Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-02-15 08:30 +0100
        Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-02-15 16:21 -0800
          Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 08:20 +0100
      Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 04:28 -0800
        Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-02-16 05:19 -0800
        Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 11:16 -0500
          Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 10:30 -0600
            Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 11:55 -0500
              Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 11:58 -0600
                Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 16:21 -0500
                Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 23:05 -0600
                Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 01:27 -0500
                Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 09:00 -0600
                Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 16:19 -0500
                Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 15:45 -0600
                Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 19:15 -0500
                Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 07:28 -0600
                Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 10:21 -0500
                Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 08:29 -0600
        Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-02-16 11:01 -0800
          Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 13:30 -0800
  Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-18 13:34 +1100
    Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-02-17 19:19 -0800
      Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-18 15:04 +1100
        Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-02-17 20:51 -0800
          Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-18 16:57 +1100
          Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 07:33 +0100
          Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 10:07 -0600
            Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-02-18 16:16 -0800
      Re: Kepler's 3rd with adjusted orbital periods Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 07:27 +0100

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