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Re: Thanks Obama

From	Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>
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Subject	Re: Thanks Obama
Date	2016-01-31 19:39 -0600
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On 27-Jan-16 15:02, Dave Garland wrote:
> On 1/27/2016 12:28 PM, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
>> On 26-Jan-16 22:53, Dave Garland wrote:
>>> When I took PolySci, many years ago, it was defined as having 
>>> geographic boundaries and police power.
>> 
>> What is "it"?
> 
> Nation-state.

That's obviously wrong since the same definition applies just as much to
city-states and multinational states as nation-states.

Such distinctions become important when trying to understand border
conflicts and civil wars, e.g. the leading proposals for Israel and
Palestine being one [multinational] state vs two [nation-]states.

> Within the broader context, "nation" doesn't seem to be a useful term
> to me. Is Islam a "nation"? It mostly shares a language and some
> culture.

Muslims speak numerous languages, and even the "shared" religious part
of their culture has serious divisions, e.g. Shia vs Sunni.  You can't
lump Turks, Kurds, Aghans, Somalis, Saudis, Qataris, etc. together.

The fact we even have _names_ for each of those groups is a strong
indicator that they're different nations.

> The "5 Eyes" (US, UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand)?

A shared language is not sufficient, though it does mean there's more
cultural exchange than between nations with different languages.

> Central America?

Likewise.  They might be candidates for a multinational state, as would
South America (maybe minus Brazil), but I don't think their culture is
homogeneous enough to make a nation-state.

> Jews (especially before the 1930s, when many shared Yiddish as a
> language)?.

I don't know enough to answer that one.

>>> The US (including Puerto Rico)?
>> 
>> The US is a nation-state despite not having police power within
>> most of its political subdivisions, confusingly called "states".
> 
> But note that the language of PR is Spanish.

Yes, PR (and other territories) have an odd status.  IMHO, PR should
either vote for statehood or be kicked out; unfortunately, the GOP
doesn't want them to be a state because it'd tip the balance in the
Senate and Electoral College, so they would simply block it.

> I was avoiding the word "state" for that reason (so I'll call them 
> "provinces" instead). The same as the phrase "police power" may call
> up images of the County Mountie, but is really far more general. The
> US govt does have police power within its political subdivisions
> (e.g. the FBI). The "provinces" also have police power. The two sets
> of police powers are not congruent, but do overlap.

"Police power" is a legal term of art that means general lawmaking
capacity, in contrast with "enumerated power".

If you meant law enforcement agencies/officers, then yes, of course.

>>> Belgium? Switzerland?
>> 
>> Those may qualify as multinational states, but AFAIK they (or at
>> least the dominant group) consider themselves nation-states.
> 
> Even though they don't all speak the same language.  OTOH, Austria
> must be part of the "German nation"?

Again, a shared language is not sufficient.

S

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                Re: Thanks Obama Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-29 07:48 -0800
                Re: Thanks Obama Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-29 13:40 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-01-29 17:57 -0400
                Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-29 22:21 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-29 17:40 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 19:38 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-29 18:14 -0800
                Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-30 11:12 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 09:47 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 09:31 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-30 10:40 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 13:21 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-31 00:16 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 11:21 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 13:24 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 15:32 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-30 15:29 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 16:57 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 19:00 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 10:43 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 16:22 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-31 19:30 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 21:56 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-01 06:40 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-01 09:32 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-01 08:12 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-31 02:42 +0100
                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-31 16:43 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-01 00:18 +0100
                Re: Thanks Obama "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-02-01 13:11 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-01 16:03 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-02 06:10 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama "Blanco" <rko4410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-01 12:56 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-30 15:23 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 17:05 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-30 17:54 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-31 04:39 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 10:42 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-31 17:30 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 12:35 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-31 19:39 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 16:23 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-31 19:41 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-01 08:12 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-01 08:51 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-01 14:51 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-02-02 05:40 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-01 21:17 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-01 17:02 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-01 13:56 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-01 09:36 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-01 11:33 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-01 14:51 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-01 15:28 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-01 15:03 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-01 16:26 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-01 17:02 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-01 16:05 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-02-02 10:09 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-02 00:21 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-02-02 12:58 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-02-02 09:51 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-01 18:55 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-02-02 13:04 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-01 21:39 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-02 20:34 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-02 18:29 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-01 14:30 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-01 11:30 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-31 19:49 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-01 08:12 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-01 08:54 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-01 07:55 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-01 11:05 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-01 16:03 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-02-01 12:31 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 15:24 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-31 21:19 +0100
                Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-31 17:14 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-01 16:03 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-01 11:14 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-02 14:52 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-02 15:41 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-03 14:25 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-03 16:40 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-03 15:16 -0700
                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-02 10:59 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-03 14:25 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-03 17:31 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-03 18:10 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama "Hilo Black" <hbk897@gmail.com> - 2016-02-04 06:35 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-03 21:11 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama "Blanco" <rko4410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-04 13:54 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-03 15:16 -0700
                Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-04 11:07 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-04 15:14 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 04:39 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-04 11:57 -0800
                Re: Thanks Obama scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-03 18:11 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama "Hilo Black" <hbk897@gmail.com> - 2016-02-04 06:37 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-03 20:55 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-04 15:14 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-04 10:49 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-04 10:51 -0700
                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-04 14:49 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-04 15:24 -0700
                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-04 20:22 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-05 03:32 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-05 14:41 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-04 18:21 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama "Blanco" <rko4410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 04:59 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-04 19:53 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-05 14:41 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-05 08:11 -0700
                Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-05 15:03 -0800
                Re: Thanks Obama "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-06 04:50 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-05 13:25 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-05 19:57 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-05 15:19 -0800
                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 19:29 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-06 14:35 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-07 06:11 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-05 14:56 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama "Hilo Black" <hbk897@gmail.com> - 2016-02-04 06:29 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-03 14:11 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama "Blanco" <rko4410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-04 13:47 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-03 21:07 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-03 16:12 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-03 21:50 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-03 16:58 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-04 15:06 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-04 09:55 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-04 10:43 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-04 10:51 -0700
                Re: Thanks Obama Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-04 17:57 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-04 15:24 -0700
                Re: Thanks Obama pechter@pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2016-02-05 18:54 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-05 19:42 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 14:10 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2016-02-08 03:31 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-08 14:12 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-03 18:28 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-04 01:47 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-03 21:41 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama "Blanco" <rko4410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-04 14:46 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-03 20:58 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-03 22:34 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-03 22:17 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-03 23:18 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama "Blanco" <rko4410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-04 17:43 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-04 15:07 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-03 22:56 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama "Blanco" <rko4410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-04 13:57 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-04 14:35 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama "Blanco" <rko4410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 04:27 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-04 11:11 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-03 22:40 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-04 15:00 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama "Blanco" <rko4410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-04 13:53 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-04 06:03 -0700
                Re: Thanks Obama "Blanco" <rko4410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 04:11 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-04 10:51 -0700
                Re: Thanks Obama "Blanco" <rko4410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 05:10 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-05 00:15 +0100
                Re: Thanks Obama Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-02-04 18:55 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama "Blanco" <rko4410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 15:17 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama "Blanco" <rko4410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 15:14 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-05 17:15 +0100
                Re: Thanks Obama "Blanco" <rko4410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-06 05:03 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-04 14:33 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama "Blanco" <rko4410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 04:22 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-03 21:31 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-04 15:14 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama "Blanco" <rko4410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 04:56 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-04 06:08 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-04 15:14 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 04:35 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-03 15:15 -0700
                Re: Thanks Obama Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-03 17:25 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-04 15:14 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-04 10:03 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama "Blanco" <rko4410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 05:04 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-04 10:14 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama "Blanco" <rko4410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 04:51 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-05 00:08 +0100
                Re: Thanks Obama jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-05 14:41 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-05 08:11 -0700
                Re: Thanks Obama Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-05 17:24 +0100
                Re: Thanks Obama jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-06 14:35 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-07 06:15 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-06 16:24 +0100
                Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-07 10:17 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-07 17:16 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-05 16:32 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama "Blanco" <rko4410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-06 05:14 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-05 11:25 -0800
                Re: Thanks Obama jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-06 14:35 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-06 10:07 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-06 04:47 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-05 13:50 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-05 15:08 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-02-05 14:50 -0800
                Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-06 05:17 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-02 11:45 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-03 05:29 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-02 05:59 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-01 14:51 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-01 15:32 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-01 17:02 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-02 10:07 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-01 21:22 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-01 15:59 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-01 17:59 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-01 19:12 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-02 09:30 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-02 14:52 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-02 15:41 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-03 05:30 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-31 16:58 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-02-01 12:42 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-30 09:59 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 11:21 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-31 05:20 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-30 15:51 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-31 17:49 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-30 09:59 -0800
                Re: Thanks Obama Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-30 10:40 -0800
                Re: Thanks Obama Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-01 00:03 -0800
                Re: Thanks Obama "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-01 07:36 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-01 16:03 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-01 10:11 -0800
                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-01 12:28 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-01 13:53 -0800
                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-01 16:24 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-02-02 10:04 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-30 16:18 +1100
                Re: Thanks Obama Morten Reistad <first@Last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-30 13:00 +0100
                Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-29 19:30 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-29 23:39 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-30 12:23 -0800
                Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-29 20:12 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-01-29 18:25 -0400
                Re: Thanks Obama Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-29 17:29 -0800
                Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 16:21 -0600
                Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-29 23:02 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-30 10:10 +1100
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