Re: Does space mean emptiness? How do you describe it?

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
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Subject	Re: Does space mean emptiness? How do you describe it?
Date	2016-01-28 11:25 -0600
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On 1/28/2016 10:29 AM, kenseto wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 27, 2016 at 8:33:31 AM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 1/26/2016 6:56 PM, kenseto wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 4:25:20 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> On 1/26/2016 3:17 PM, kenseto wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 10:02:49 AM UTC-5, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/26/16 8:54 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, January 25, 2016 at 11:58:09 AM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 1/25/2016 8:39 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>>>>>>>> There have never been any observations or experiments that contradict my
>>>>>>>>> predictions that "angels make it happen". So is my theory a good theory? I don't think so.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Angels make it happen" is not a prediction, Ken. Do you know what a
>>>>>>>> prediction is?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure it is a prediction just as virtual particles make it happens.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       What did Casimir get the Nobel Prize for, Seto?
>>>>>
>>>>> It just means that the Nobel Committee accepted Casmir's explanation that the virtual particles made it happen.
>>>>
>>>> Uh, no. It means that Casimir's predictions were later validated by
>>>> experimental confirmation, and that as a result, Casimir's theory was
>>>> widely used by other theorists to develop other explanations and other
>>>> predictions which where then also validated in experimental test.
>>>
>>> That's not a confirmation of the virtual particles. It merely means that virtual particles could be one of the
>>> model that give rise to the Casmir force.
>>
>> And since the model makes numerical predictions that match the
>> measurements of the Casimir force, then that is considered a
>> confirmation of virtual particles, Ken.
>
> The model of Model Mechanics males identical predictions for the Casmir force. Why? Because the
> same equations are used to make the predictions.

Oddly enough, though, your theory of angels doesn't include interactions 
and so doesn't use the math of QED where the interaction term is included.

> This is much like SR uses the same LET equations
> to make predictions. The difference is that SR call the ether frame as the inertial frame to
> derive the LET math whereas LET acknowledges the existence of the ether frame and use it to
> derived the LT.
>>
>> That's how science confirms the validity of theories, Ken. You didn't
>> know that?
>
> You don't know that an equation can be based on different models???

One equation, maybe, but no two models share the entire set of identical 
equations. So no, if you think this happens, then I'm pretty sure you're 
flat wrong.

>
>>
>>> Model Mechanics provides a better model that explains the Casmir force as follows:
>>> every unit area on both metal plate are moving in the same direction in the E-Matrix. This gives rise to
>>> an attractive force between them. each of these unit area on each plate are connected by the electromagnetic
>>> force and thus the metal plates are experiencing an attractive force between them.
>>
>> I don't see any predictions in any of what you just described. Casimir's
>> theory had predictions.
>
> The same equations can be used. replace virtual particles model with absolute motion in the same
> direction for opposite unit areas on both plates that creates the attractive force between them.
>

Like the angels that have spin 1/2 and mass of 511 keV?


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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    Re: Does space mean emptiness? How do you describe it? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-25 10:37 -0600
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