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Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.*

From Julien ÉLIE <iulius@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid>
Newsgroups news.groups.proposals
Subject Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.*
Date 2026-06-03 17:41 -0400
Organization PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC
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Hi Koen,

> Indeed, usenet is not what it was 20+ years ago. A lot has happened,
> but usenet has tried to stay the same. A living usenet, to me, is a
> usenet that adapts, that heals its wounds, and moves forward in a
> leaner configuration, with less dillution of the few active people
> over too many groups.

Exactly: a living Usenet adapts and moves forward.


> What I've seen is that the management group has put forward proposals,
> and that these have been discussed and put to a vote. That sounds like
> a decent democratic process.

FWIW, the de.* hierarchy is currently rationalizing their newsgroups and 
proceeds to public votes.  A majority of voters is in favour of the 
removal of empty, no longer used newsgroups.  Quoting the results:

  Ja  Nein : 2/3? >=15? : ang.? : Abstimmungsgegenstand
---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : ---------------------------------------
   34    4 :  Ja   Ja   :  Ja   : Loeschung von de.comp.os.msdos
   36    2 :  Ja   Ja   :  Ja   : Loeschung von de.comp.os.os2
   35    4 :  Ja   Ja   :  Ja   : Loeschung von de.comp.os.vms
   35    2 :  Ja   Ja   :  Ja   : Loeschung von
           :            :       : d.r.sport.motorsport.formel1
   35    2 :  Ja   Ja   :  Ja   : Loeschung von
           :            :       : d.r.sport.motorsport.motorrad
   36    2 :  Ja   Ja   :  Ja   : Loeschung von de.sci.genealogie
   36    3 :  Ja   Ja   :  Ja   : Loeschung von de.soc.handicap
   35    6 :  Ja   Ja   :  Ja   : Loeschung von
           :            :       : d.c.hardware.cpu+mainboard.amd
   34    6 :  Ja   Ja   :  Ja   : Loeschung von
           :            :       : d.c.hardware.cpu+mainboard.intel
   38    4 :  Ja   Ja   :  Ja   : Loeschung von d.c.hardware.scanner
   35    4 :  Ja   Ja   :  Ja   : Loeschung von de.rec.alpinismus
   34    4 :  Ja   Ja   :  Ja   : Loeschung von de.soc.subkultur.gothic
   33   10 :  Ja   Ja   :  Ja   : Loeschung von de.comp.sys.amiga
   34    9 :  Ja   Ja   :  Ja   : Loeschung von de.comp.sys.atari
[...]

-- 
Julien ÉLIE

« Le cercle est le plus long chemin d'un point au même point. » (Tom
   Stoppard, _Every Good Boy Deserves Favour_)

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RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Julien ÉLIE <iulius@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:59 -0500
  Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2026-02-06 12:02 -0500
  Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* David Chmelik <dchmelik@gmail.com> - 2026-03-02 16:38 -0500
  Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Moses <moses.mason@gmail.com> - 2026-03-17 10:03 -0400
    Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-03-17 15:38 -0400
      Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Moses <moses.mason@gmail.com> - 2026-03-18 07:28 -0400
        Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-03-18 15:46 -0400
          Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Moses <moses.mason@gmail.com> - 2026-03-19 05:43 -0400
        Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Julien ÉLIE <iulius@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid> - 2026-03-19 05:20 -0400
          Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Moses <moses.mason@gmail.com> - 2026-03-19 15:01 -0400
            Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) - 2026-05-10 13:20 -0400
              Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Michael Bäuerle <michael.baeuerle@gmx.net> - 2026-05-11 07:28 -0400
                Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> - 2026-05-11 08:13 -0400
                Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Moses <moses.mason@gmail.com> - 2026-05-18 02:31 -0400
              Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2026-05-11 07:29 -0400
                Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Moses <moses.mason@gmail.com> - 2026-05-18 02:31 -0400
              Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Steve Bonine <spb@pobox.com> - 2026-05-14 15:35 -0400
                Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> - 2026-05-14 23:12 -0400
                Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) - 2026-05-15 04:39 -0400
                Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2026-05-15 11:21 -0400
                Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> - 2026-05-15 11:22 -0400
                Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Dr Engelbert Buxbaum <engelbert_buxbaum@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-16 05:41 -0400
                Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Moses <moses.mason@gmail.com> - 2026-05-18 02:31 -0400
                Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Steve Bonine <spb@pobox.com> - 2026-05-18 02:32 -0400
                Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Moses <moses.mason@gmail.com> - 2026-05-18 02:31 -0400
                Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> - 2026-05-18 07:10 -0400
                Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Moses <moses.mason@gmail.com> - 2026-05-19 06:01 -0400
                Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> - 2026-05-19 07:33 -0400
                Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* D Finnigan <dog_cow@macgui.com> - 2026-05-19 14:40 -0400
                Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Moses <moses.mason@gmail.com> - 2026-05-20 05:15 -0400
                Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-05-19 14:25 -0400
                Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Steve Bonine <spb@pobox.com> - 2026-05-18 02:31 -0400
                Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Julien ÉLIE <iulius@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid> - 2026-06-03 17:41 -0400
                Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-06-04 02:26 -0400
                Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Julien ÉLIE <iulius@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid> - 2026-06-04 16:43 -0400
                Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Thomas Hochstein <thh@thh.name> - 2026-06-05 02:09 -0400
                Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Moses <moses.mason@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 02:08 -0400
                Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Thomas Hochstein <thh@thh.name> - 2026-06-04 12:08 -0400
                Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Julien ÉLIE <iulius@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid> - 2026-06-04 16:25 -0400
                Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* vintageapplemac@gmail.com (scole) - 2026-06-11 13:01 -0400
              Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-05-16 05:47 -0400
              Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Moses <moses.mason@gmail.com> - 2026-05-18 02:31 -0400

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