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France wants a new keyboard

From RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>
Newsgroups comp.misc
Subject France wants a new keyboard
Date 2016-01-22 17:10 +0000
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From the «diacriticals are for suckers» department:
Title: France wants a new keyboard to protect its language
Author: Thom Holwerda
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 09:04:36 -0500
Link: http://osnews.com/story/29055/France_wants_a_new_keyboard_to_protect_its_language

This week, the French government announced a plan to standardize the
French-language computer keyboard, as part of an effort to help protect and
nurture the language. The ministry of culture and communication says it's
"nearly impossible to correctly write French" on keyboards sold in the country
today, meaning that the language's strict grammatical rules are being flouted
more regularly. The ministry has partnered with a standardization group to
develop a new keyboard norm, which will be presented for public feedback this
summer. To many monolingual people - especially those in English-speaking
countries - the idea of a keyboard layout influencing a language as a whole
often seems insane. It happens, though, and it's very real - I talked about
this before, but for Dutch. Modern technology really is changing language in
multiple ways all over the place. This really isn't up for debate. The
question, however, is not if technology can change language; no, the real
question is whether or not you should care. I personally believe that no, you
should not. Language has always been ever-changing, is ever-changing, and
always will be ever-changing. The idea that one particular set of rules for
English, French, or Dutch from a very particular area and from a very
particular timeframe is somehow more or less correct is not only wrong, it's
downright insulting. Much like other aspects of culture, language is often used
as a means to discriminate, insult, or ridicule. A great - and sad - example of
this is African American Vernacular English, which was often seen as dumb,
stupid, and incorrect, reflecting the perceived social position of
African-Americans in American society and emphasizing stereotypes about
African-Americans. However, when linguists actually started studying AAVE, they
found out it was incredibly rich in grammatical rules and constructs that are
very different from regular English, but not dumber or less complex.
Coincidentally, AAVE sounds beautiful. It flows really well. The point being,
the idea that you somehow need to "protect" language is kind of silly. Stopping
a language from changing - which is exactly what "protecting language" means -
is like trying to make it stop raining. If you start to try and stop a language
from changing, basically all you're doing is trying to create an ever-widening
rift between written language and spoken language, up to a point where the
written word deviates so much from the spoken word it starts to get
troublesome. There's nothing wrong with wanting a standardised French keyboard
- even if only for something as important as accessibility - but it's not going
to stop the French language from changing, being influenced, and modernising
itself.


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France wants a new keyboard RS Wood  <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2016-01-22 17:10 +0000
  Re: France wants a new keyboard Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-22 17:21 +0000
    Re: France wants a new keyboard RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2016-01-22 17:32 +0000
      Re: France wants a new keyboard Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-01-22 22:28 +0200
        Re: France wants a new keyboard Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-22 19:40 -0500
          Re: France wants a new keyboard Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-01-23 10:43 +0200
            Re: France wants a new keyboard Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-23 09:25 +0000
              Re: France wants a new keyboard scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2016-01-25 17:36 +0000
            Re: France wants a new keyboard Andy Burns <usenet.jan2016@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2016-01-23 13:28 +0000
              Re: France wants a new keyboard RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2016-01-23 16:58 +0000
      Re: France wants a new keyboard Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-01-24 12:42 +0100
        Re: France wants a new keyboard Yeechang Lee <ylee@columbia.edu> - 2016-01-27 22:35 -0800
          Re: France wants a new keyboard Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-01-28 20:48 +0100
            Re: France wants a new keyboard Yeechang Lee <ylee@columbia.edu> - 2016-01-29 22:42 -0800
    Re: France wants a new keyboard mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-22 20:05 +0000
      Re: France wants a new keyboard Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-23 11:11 +1100
        Re: France wants a new keyboard Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-23 09:25 +0000
          Re: France wants a new keyboard Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-23 23:23 +1100
  Re: France wants a new keyboard Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2016-01-27 15:12 +0200
    Re: France wants a new keyboard Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-01-27 17:03 +0200
      Re: France wants a new keyboard Kara M'bola <maxupixu@in.val.it> - 2016-01-27 18:23 +0000
        Re: France wants a new keyboard RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2016-01-28 10:35 +0000
          Re: France wants a new keyboard Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-28 10:46 +0000
            Re: France wants a new keyboard Kara M'bola <maxupixu@in.val.it> - 2016-01-28 11:18 +0000
      Re: France wants a new keyboard Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-27 21:26 +0000
      Re: France wants a new keyboard Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2016-01-28 10:02 +0200

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