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Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.

From Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org>
Newsgroups alt.os.linux.ubuntu
Subject Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.
Date 2016-01-17 10:40 -0500
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On 01/17/2016 10:36 AM, Caver1 wrote:
> On 01/17/2016 04:59 AM, Nemo wrote:
>> On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 10:33:45 -0500, Caver1 wrote:
>>
>>> On 01/16/2016 01:45 AM, Nemo wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 16:27:08 -0500, Caver1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 01/15/2016 03:29 PM, Nemo wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:36:11 -0500, Caver1 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> According to the Bible he was anointed by God.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> do you have a citation?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> f.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I'll have to look it up.
>>>>> I was speaking exclusively of Jesus.
>>>>
>>>> thinking about it, I believe some refer to John's baptism of Jesus; in
>>>> the four Gospels someone calls Jesus "the son of God" (in three it's
>>>> supposed to be God himself,
>>>> in another, it's supposed to be John).
>>>>
>>>> maybe you are thinking of this?
>>>>
>>>> baptism isn't anointing, I think it's some kind of ritual of
>>>> purification though John employed it as a mode of repentance.
>>>>
>>>> f.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Luke 2:26 Where it states seeing the Christ(anointed) of the Lord. One
>>> version, Geneva 1599 states " before he had seene that Anointed of the
>>> Lord."
>>>
>>> Matthew 16:16  "And Simon Peter answered and said, You are the Christ,
>>> the Son of the living God." Or You are the Anointed...
>>>
>>
>> thanks for the citations; makes sense as the idea is God appoints Jesus to
>> leadership of the Kingdom of David (from whom Jesus was supposed
>> to descend).
>>
>>> Every time the word Christ is used in reference to Jesus it is calling
>>> him anointed.
>>> Jesus Christ is Jesus the anointed.
>>
>> yes as 'christos' = 'anointed' so that stands to reason.
>>
>>> Baptism is the outward expression of your dedication to follow Jesus
>>> Christ. No cleansing.
>>
>> odd since the word means 'dipping in water', John drenched people in the
>> Jordan. I wonder why bathing in water if cleansing is not involved.
>>
>> and apparently John had been baptizing for repentance (Matthew 3:11)
>> and when Jesus showed up he linked it to Jesus's mission. I hope I got
>> that right.
>>
>> f.
>>
>
> John's baptism did not wash away their sins, but the
> repentance and changing of their ways did, and of this,
> baptism was a symbol.
> Luke 3.3 Knox version of Bible "And he went all over the
> country round Jordan, announcing a baptism whereby men
> repented, to have their sins forgiven:"
> Christian baptism
>    Acts 2:37,38 “Brothers, what shall we do?” Peter answered:
> “Repent, and let each one of you be baptized in the name of
> Jesus Christ for forgiveness of your sins, and you will
> receive the free gift of the holy spirit.”
> 1 John 1:7 states that it's Jesus's blood that cleanses us
> from sin.
> 1 Peter 3:20,21 states "The like figure whereunto even
> baptism does also now save us (not the putting away of the
> filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience
> toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: "
> So according to this baptism is not a cleansing.
> since baptism is not a cleansing but an outward symbol of
> your repentance and that you will follow Christ this leaves
> the questions Follow how and follow where.
>

Ifyou want to continue this discussion I suggest we take it 
to email and not continue it in the newsgroup.
If you do contact me at  a7915aff@opayq.com.

-- 
Caver1

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Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-13 04:43 -0500
  Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2016-01-13 13:14 +0100
    Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-13 07:31 -0500
      Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2016-01-13 14:48 +0100
        Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-13 09:38 -0500
          Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2016-01-14 02:31 +0100
            Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-13 21:24 -0500
            Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-13 21:28 -0500
          Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-17 03:23 +0000
            Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-17 06:42 +0000
        Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2016-01-14 17:58 -0800
          Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-15 09:01 -0500
    Re: Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-13 07:39 -0500
      Re: Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2016-01-13 14:50 +0100
    Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-13 07:39 -0500
      Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2016-01-13 14:52 +0100
    Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-13 18:50 +0100
      Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-13 15:47 -0500
    Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Nemo <Nemo@INVALID.org> - 2016-01-13 14:53 -0600
      Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-01-15 07:14 -0500
        Re: [OT entirely] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Henry Crun <mike@rechtman.com> - 2016-01-15 16:23 +0200
          Re: [OT entirely] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-15 14:42 -0500
        Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2016-01-15 11:36 -0500
          Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Nemo <Nemo@INVALID.org> - 2016-01-15 14:29 -0600
            Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2016-01-15 16:27 -0500
              Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Nemo <Nemo@INVALID.org> - 2016-01-16 00:45 -0600
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2016-01-16 10:33 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-16 11:07 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Nemo <Nemo@INVALID.org> - 2016-01-17 03:59 -0600
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2016-01-17 10:36 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2016-01-17 10:40 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-17 10:04 -0600
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-17 16:15 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Godzilla <godzilla@lizardboss.invalid> - 2016-01-17 16:45 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-17 13:15 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Godzilla <godzilla@lizardboss.invalid> - 2016-01-17 18:32 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-17 19:46 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-17 21:00 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-21 03:47 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-21 05:56 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-23 03:23 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-23 03:03 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Catzilla <catzilla@pussyboss.invalid> - 2016-01-23 08:54 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-24 04:31 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-24 09:50 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2016-01-24 02:46 -0800
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. mike antipasto <pizzadude@mycomputerrox.org> - 2016-01-24 10:05 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-24 10:41 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-25 04:10 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-25 10:47 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-27 03:09 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-27 01:05 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-30 02:49 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Mr.E <Mr.E@totally.invalid> - 2016-01-24 07:16 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-24 15:51 +0100
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-24 11:13 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-24 19:20 +0100
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-24 13:29 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-24 21:49 +0100
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-24 18:12 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Mr.E <Mr.E@totally.invalid> - 2016-01-24 13:50 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-01-24 11:41 -0800
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-01-24 08:38 -0800
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-01-24 09:42 -0800
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-25 04:01 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-25 10:44 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-27 03:06 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-27 01:03 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C can suck my balls <Imustbejackingoff@the.moment> - 2016-01-25 16:06 -0800
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-01-26 09:22 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-18 08:11 -0600
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 10:08 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Godzilla <godzilla@lizardboss.invalid> - 2016-01-18 15:19 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 11:49 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> - 2016-01-18 17:59 +0100
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Jonathan N Little <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 17:07 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> - 2016-01-18 19:37 +0100
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 14:02 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-18 11:06 -0600
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Jonathan N Little <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 17:16 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-18 13:53 -0600
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 16:20 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-18 21:49 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-18 16:41 -0600
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Jonathan N Little <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 17:04 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Jonathan N Little <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 17:09 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-18 13:56 -0600
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-18 21:44 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-18 21:43 +0000
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-18 16:42 -0600
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2016-01-19 00:01 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-19 03:08 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-18 11:12 -0600
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Mike Yetto <unet.lighthouse@xoxy.net> - 2016-01-17 14:33 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Nemo <Nemo@INVALID.org> - 2016-01-18 14:30 -0600
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2016-01-18 15:37 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-01-20 06:45 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-20 07:30 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Nemo <Nemo@INVALID.org> - 2016-01-22 13:44 -0600
          Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-01-20 06:40 -0500
            Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-20 07:29 -0500
        Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Nemo <Nemo@INVALID.org> - 2016-01-15 14:29 -0600
  Re: Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Catzilla <catzilla@pussyboss.invalid> - 2016-01-14 00:51 +0000

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