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| From | "Billy_Ray~0~Ferrell-USA-VP_2016" <BillyRayferrell@108.195.218.169> |
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| Subject | Re: How Did God Create The Universe? the Atheist Definition of Nothing |
| Date | 2016-01-14 13:40 -0600 |
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"hypatiab7" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:2b71f751-e210-455a-be44-953780b15fce@googlegroups.com...
> On Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 1:04:40 AM UTC-5,
> Billy_Ray~0~Ferrell-USA-VP_2016 wrote:
>> "hypatiab7"
>> <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
>> wrote in message
>> news:fbba8776-e37a-4302-95bc-33d8a8988c68@googlegroups.com...
>> > On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 5:42:42 PM UTC-5, Greywolf wrote:
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 12,
>> 2016 at 3:50:32 PM UTC-6,
>> Billy_Ray~0~Ferrell-USA-VP_2016
>> wrote:
>>>
>> "The Starmaker"
>>>> To be continued...
>>> Bang I Got you
>>>
>>> Whatever happened to the Great Arklesneezer?
>> Hunting
>>
>> But One Came in
>> The name Of
>> Nothing
>> Prove All Thing
>
> Word salad meaning nothing.
HTML Is Nothing made Imaginable
< http://gardening.from-tx.com/ >
To be continued...
> As a science fiction fan and fan writer,
> I know that nothing is unimaginable.
> But that doesn't mean that anything
> you imagine becomes real.
Humans imagine Light
- 0 1 0 +
Is 1 Number
Working With Noting
Will all ways make
Someone Spark
The World of Keys
-0-1-0-1
Imagine unlock the magic
-0+
Is it Real or Imagine
1+1+1 = 3
The World of Light
And it becomes Real
General Electric
Meaning I Believe In
The Son of Nothing
He Who came kill
Nothing is a God
who can not die
Human Bleed Out
The Soul of Life
And Die
He who is of Nothing
Bleed out Wo-Man
Saving the Soul
of Nothing
Who Can not Die
Nothing Save the Women
Flush and Bone
The Son of Nothing
Nothing Human In
Him
A Old Yaw Saying:
Am I Nothing I Am
The God of Yaws
atheism Believe in Nothing
But I Am a Nothing worshiper
One of the three
Major Parts of
Traditional Human
Religion.
A Nothing Religion.
Lawrence Krauss and
the Atheist Definition of Nothing
by Robin Schumacher
edited by Matt Slick
Dr. Lawrence Krauss is a very
well educated and intelligent man.
There is no doubt his prowess in the area of science exceeds
my own by an extremely wide margin,
and I'll be the first to admit that physics is certainly not
my area of expertise.
But I have a bone to pick with Dr. Krauss about his latest book,
A Universe from Nothing,
which has the subtitle Why there is something rather than nothing?
Those having taken an intro to philosophy class will recognize that Krauss'
subtitle is a rendition of the most basic philosophical question of
existence,
which has been attributed to truth seekers such as Gottfried Leibniz who
asked,
"Why do we have something rather than nothing at all?"
You would think that by the title of Krauss' book he
answers the question that Leibniz posed,
but he doesn't. Instead,
he redefines what 'nothing' is.
'Nothing' to Dr. Krauss would be empty space or the quantum vacuum.
Neil DeGrasse Tyson,
who is an astrophysicist at the American Museum of Natural History,
says in his brief review of the book:
"Nothing is not nothing.
Nothing is something.
That's how a cosmos can be spawned from the void
--
a profound idea conveyed in A Universe From
Nothing that unsettles some yet enlightens others.
Meanwhile,
it's just another day on the job
for physicist Lawrence Krauss."
Dictionary.com
defines 'nothing' as:
no thing;
not anything;
naught:
to say nothing.
no part,
share,
or trace
(usually followed by of ):
The house showed nothing of
its former magnificence.
something that is nonexistent.
nonexistence;
nothingness:
The sound faded to nothing.
But,
I think the best definition of 'nothing' is Aristotle's:
"Nothing is what rocks dream about."
Why does Krauss attempt to redefine 'nothing'?
Because Krauss is an atheist,
and a fairly acerbic one at that.
He not only doesn't believe in God,
he doesn't like God.
Here is the problem Krauss faces:
If nothing is really nothing,
and we have something (the universe) from a real nothing,
then it points to the universe having a beginning.
And as Stephen Hawking has observed,
"Many people do not like the idea that time has a beginning,
probably because it smacks of divine intervention."
The problem is that empty space and
/
or the quantum vacuum aren't nothing;
they're something.
So Krauss' book does absolutely 'nothing' to answer Leibniz's question,
and leaves his readers no better off than they were before where the issue
of
the origin of the universe is concerned.
All the scientific evidence points to
the universe exploding out of true nothingness,
but atheists like Krauss hate this truth.
So they do their best to spin and redefine the facts to try and placate
their worldview.
As Dr. Robert Jastrow says,
"Theologians generally are delighted with the proof that the universe had a
beginning,
but astronomers are curiously upset.
It turns out that the scientist behaves the way the rest of us do when
our beliefs are in conflict with the evidence."
Yes,
Dr. Lawrence Krauss is a very well educated
and intelligent man.
But he doesn't know
anything about nothing.
<
https://web.archive.org/web/20130129033923/http://carm.org/lawrence-krauss-atheist-definition-of-nothing >
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