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Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal

From moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal
Date 2016-01-13 03:17 +0000
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john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Michael: stars take more or less time, depending on their exact 
>orbit.  It's like a whirlpool, the center circles more times than the "

>But how do the arms remain contiguous?
>I know- you say they don't, but all spiral
>galaxies have them, so they must.

They're standing waves of density.  The arms are high densities of stars
and gases, and in between arms are low densities of stars and gases.  
Individual stars orbit through both regions, spending more time in high
density regions. High density encourages formation of new stars, including
bright, short-lived massive stars.  These stars make the arms even
brighter, and they burn out before they move through the low density 
regions, so they are dimmer.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Density_wave_theory   There are 
animations there for you to play with.  Notice you can have it so that
the stars of the galaxy revolve around the center but the arms themselves
are stationary.

I've seen somewhere animations that mark one star as a separate color so 
you can see it enter and leave the arms as it orbits.

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The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 07:43 -0800
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                Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-01-13 03:17 +0000
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                Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-01-14 06:25 +0000
                Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 06:18 -0800
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                Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 14:25 -0600
                Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 12:57 -0800
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                Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 02:26 -0800
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                Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 06:45 -0800
                Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 07:13 -0800
                Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 12:41 -0500
                Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 09:30 -0600
                Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 07:46 -0800
                Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 07:55 -0800
                Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 14:21 -0600
                Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-01-14 16:20 +0000
                Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 14:19 -0600
                Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 14:20 -0600
                Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-01-13 15:05 +0000
                Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 09:09 -0600
                Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 07:45 -0800
                Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 10:00 -0600
                Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 08:37 -0800
                Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-01-13 16:46 +0000
                Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 10:58 -0600
                Re: The Universe is a Reverse Fractal HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 07:40 -0800
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