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Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;)

From crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.os.linux.ubuntu, alt.os.linux
Subject Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;)
Date 2016-01-12 04:18 -0700
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Marek Novotny wrote:

> On 2016-01-11, Jonathan N. Little <lws4art@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>> John Hasler wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>>> crankypuss writes:
>>>>> OMG, this stuff is so '80s.  Time to start playing catch-up, imo.
>>>>
>>>> Because it's about command line stuff?  You can use Synaptic or one
>>>> of
>>>> the other pointy-clicky "apps".  Try something based on packagekit.
>>>>  It
>>>> drags in dbus and libsystemd.  Surely that's up-to-date.
>>>
>>> Many people mistake their limited experience with the totality of
>>> "the product".
>>>
>>> Of course, trolls push the idea that Linux is "80's" technology...
>>> no matter how much new stuff has come down the pike since then.
>>>
>>
>> The command line can be so much more efficient. I can manage 2 dozen
>> workstations remotely via ssh & command line in a totally for a few
>> minutes, whereas to physically traverse each to do a Windows
>> pointy-clicky on each (Or spend $$ for some proprietary software the
>> other Windows-way) to do the same?  No thanks!
> 
> I was just reading a little about Microsoft's PowerShell. I attempted
> to learn a little PowerShell before learning a little BASH shell.
> Sorry I didn't save a link to the article. Just one of things I read
> in passing and didn't think I'd ever reference it. Anyway, in the
> article two key things were mentioned.
> 
> 1. PowerShell users are discovering that using a shell is a lot better
> for administration tasks. So they start to use the shell and they
> start getting better and better at it. As they get better at it they
> start to rely on it more and more.
> 
> 2. The article suggests that some of these admins have become so
> devoted to the shell that they are now looking at Linux from a new
> point of view and considering switching simple because they are
> starting to learn the BASH shell and like it better.
> 
> I've opine'd over two years ago and still hold the same opinion today.
> Learning the shell changes everything. It puts you much more in the
> driver's seat than ever before. Previously I was a user who always
> relied on finding a tool that did what I wanted. If it wasn't built
> in, I'd look for a simple tool someone else made to do the task I
> wanted done. I think that describes the average Mac and PC user. And
> this is somehow a modern thing. Learning the shell means you not only
> understand the OS on a more fundamental level, but you can leverage
> the shell to do whatever you need.
> 
> The shell becomes a universal utility. And it can do much more. Heck I
> wrote a lame Lemonade game in BASH. It's pretty flexible. I don't know
> how anyone can say it is so 80's. Especially coming from a
> self-described programmer. You either require that someone else built
> a tool or interface for you, or you're capable of crafting something
> you can use for yourself. I'd rather be the latter. If being able to
> think for yourself is so 80's then I opine we need a lot more 80's
> thinking.

A lot of things have gone wrong since the '80s.  That doesn't matter, 
we're not in the '80s anymore.

Think about what you're really saying.  You're saying that having a 
programmable environment to work in lets you get more work done faster 
and easier.  Well duh, of course it does, that's why people bother to 
learn programming, it's what general-purpose computing systems are for, 
being programmable labor-saving devices, devices that help us do things 
we'd be unable to do without a machine to remember things for us, 
connections of this to that, ways to manipulate those connections to do 
actual work.

You seem to think I'm ranting against using text commands.  That's 
messed up.  I'll rant against a BAD SET of text commands, that are 
parsed and implemented willy-nilly, but I also rant against lame-assed 
GUI systems because they are insufficiently programmable.

Text-based commands are no more and no less than function-calls.  The 
linux language uses inconsistent argument parsing and interpretation 
based on whatever the implementor was in the mood for, it's an ad-hoc 
system and hasn't advertised itself as anything else, regardless of what 
some companies have advertised.

You People seem not to have a clue what I'm talking about.  I'm tempted 
to say "no great loss" but it *is* a great loss.

-- 
http://totally-portable-software.blogspot.com
  [Sun Nov 22: "Total Portability is not binary"]

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  Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-06 18:11 -0600
    Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-06 19:23 -0600
      Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-07 09:03 -0600
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          Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-09 10:03 -0500
            Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-09 09:14 -0600
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            Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-09 11:42 -0500
              Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2016-01-10 09:59 +0000
          Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2016-01-09 12:22 -0800
            Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-09 17:36 -0600
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                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Catzilla <catzilla@pussyboss.invalid> - 2016-01-10 02:54 +0000
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-09 22:21 -0500
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                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Catzilla <catzilla@pussyboss.invalid> - 2016-01-10 03:29 +0000
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-09 22:18 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Catzilla <catzilla@pussyboss.invalid> - 2016-01-10 03:20 +0000
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-09 23:19 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Catzilla <catzilla@pussyboss.invalid> - 2016-01-10 04:23 +0000
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-10 00:40 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Catzilla <catzilla@pussyboss.invalid> - 2016-01-10 12:47 +0000
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-10 08:40 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Catzilla <catzilla@pussyboss.invalid> - 2016-01-10 14:30 +0000
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-10 00:29 -0600
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Catzilla <catzilla@pussyboss.invalid> - 2016-01-10 12:32 +0000
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-10 08:28 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Catzilla <catzilla@pussyboss.invalid> - 2016-01-10 13:33 +0000
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-10 08:42 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Catzilla <catzilla@pussyboss.invalid> - 2016-01-10 13:55 +0000
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Penny Tration <fedora_the_explora@asia.com> - 2016-01-10 22:49 +0000
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-10 19:07 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Penny Tration <fedora_the_explora@asia.com> - 2016-01-11 02:56 +0000
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-11 00:14 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-01-11 20:35 +0000
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2016-01-10 12:15 -0200
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Catzilla <catzilla@pussyboss.invalid> - 2016-01-10 14:23 +0000
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-10 14:09 -0500
            Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-09 20:32 -0500
              Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-10 06:27 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-10 08:25 -0500
                Buh bye redux Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-10 08:26 -0500
                Re: Buh bye redux DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-10 08:41 -0500
              Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-10 17:27 +0100
            Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2016-01-10 11:32 -0200
          Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-09 18:43 -0700
            Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-09 22:17 -0500
              Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-09 23:10 -0600
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-10 00:42 -0500
              Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-10 06:30 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-10 05:09 -0700
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-10 08:24 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-10 06:44 -0700
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-10 14:05 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-10 13:03 -0700
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-10 08:52 -0600
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-01-10 08:27 -0800
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-01-10 11:03 -0600
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-10 12:25 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-01-10 15:13 -0800
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-01-10 17:29 -0600
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-10 18:31 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-11 03:59 -0700
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-01-11 08:11 -0600
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-11 10:22 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 10:32 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-01-11 08:44 -0800
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2016-01-11 16:51 +0000
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-12 04:18 -0700
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-12 08:14 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-12 07:01 -0700
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-12 09:43 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-12 08:40 -0700
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-12 15:58 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-01-12 08:49 -0800
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-12 10:42 -0700
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Eef Hartman <E.J.M.Hartman@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 18:33 +0000
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-12 16:00 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2016-01-13 12:21 +0000
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-13 08:10 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-13 06:48 -0700
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-13 12:59 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-13 14:24 -0700
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-13 16:51 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-01-14 14:58 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-01-14 11:24 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-14 11:35 -0700
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) stepore <linshine@here.now> - 2016-01-12 15:04 -0800
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Eef Hartman <E.J.M.Hartman@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 22:38 +0000
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-01-11 15:53 -0800
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Eef Hartman <E.J.M.Hartman@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 01:01 +0000
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-01-11 18:29 -0800
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Eef Hartman <E.J.M.Hartman@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 04:14 +0000
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-12 04:27 -0700
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-12 03:51 -0700
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-12 03:48 -0700
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2016-01-12 03:22 -0800
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-12 12:47 +0000
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-01-12 08:31 -0800
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-01-12 11:16 -0600
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-12 10:47 -0700
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-12 12:58 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2016-01-12 10:01 -0800
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-12 15:12 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-01-13 08:58 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-12 10:46 -0700
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-01-12 11:56 -0800
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-13 04:05 -0700
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-01-13 08:38 -0800
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-13 14:27 -0700
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2016-01-13 12:30 +0000
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2016-01-13 13:44 +0000
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Jim Diamond <Jim.Diamond@deletethis.AcadiaU.ca> - 2016-01-13 14:11 -0400
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-13 14:30 -0700
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-13 16:52 -0600
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Eef Hartman <E.J.M.Hartman@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 00:16 +0000
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-14 05:51 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Jim Diamond <Jim.Diamond@deletethis.AcadiaU.ca> - 2016-01-14 08:56 -0400
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-14 09:34 -0700
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-14 11:43 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-14 11:50 -0700
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-01-14 08:52 -0800
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Jim Diamond <Jim.Diamond@deletethis.AcadiaU.ca> - 2016-01-14 14:00 -0400
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-14 13:28 -0700
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-12 12:56 -0600
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 18:17 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-13 05:11 -0700
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 09:38 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-13 08:42 -0600
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-13 09:48 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-13 09:58 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-01-13 08:51 -0800
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-13 15:31 -0700
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2016-01-13 23:03 -0800
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-14 02:34 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-13 14:35 -0700
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-13 04:44 -0700
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Eef Hartman <E.J.M.Hartman@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 14:51 +0000
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-13 15:36 -0700
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-10 13:36 -0700
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) stepore <linshine@here.now> - 2016-01-10 20:49 -0800
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-01-10 20:58 -0800
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) stepore <linshine@here.now> - 2016-01-10 21:02 -0800
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Eef Hartman <E.J.M.Hartman@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 08:54 +0000
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-01-11 08:00 -0600
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-10 08:26 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-10 08:34 -0600
            Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Kirk_Von_Rockstein <Kirk_Von_Rockstein@nowhere.invalid> - 2016-01-10 10:41 +0000
              Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-10 04:56 -0700
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Kirk_Von_Rockstein <Kirk_Von_Rockstein@nowhere.invalid> - 2016-01-11 15:23 +0000
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-12 04:36 -0700
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Henry Crun <mike@rechtman.com> - 2016-01-12 14:04 +0200
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-12 12:52 +0000
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-12 06:18 -0700
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-12 09:58 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-12 08:48 -0700
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Henry Crun <mike@rechtman.com> - 2016-01-13 03:49 +0200
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-13 05:13 -0700
          Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2016-01-10 09:53 +0000
    Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) "Auric__" <not.my.real@email.address> - 2016-01-07 05:55 +0000
      Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) stepore <linshine@here.now> - 2016-01-07 00:21 -0800
    Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) stepore <linshine@here.now> - 2016-01-07 00:26 -0800
  Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2016-01-07 13:54 -0200
    Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-07 19:28 +0100
      Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) gamo <gamo@telecable.es> - 2016-01-07 21:52 +0100
      Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2016-01-08 11:08 -0200
        Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-08 08:38 -0500
          Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2016-01-08 17:14 -0200
            Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2016-01-08 20:51 -0800
              Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-09 01:39 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2016-01-09 13:24 -0800
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2016-01-09 16:32 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-10 00:45 -0600
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2016-01-10 11:42 -0200
              Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2016-01-09 08:34 +0000
              Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2016-01-09 10:41 -0200
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2016-01-09 13:33 -0800
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-10 00:41 -0600
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-10 08:16 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2016-01-10 12:08 -0200
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2016-01-10 14:24 -0800
              Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-09 09:02 -0500
        Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-08 18:26 +0100
        Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) stepore <linshine@here.now> - 2016-01-08 22:56 -0800
          Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2016-01-09 10:51 -0200
            Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) gamo <gamo@telecable.es> - 2016-01-09 14:12 +0100
              Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-09 09:13 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) gamo <gamo@telecable.es> - 2016-01-09 15:32 +0100
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-09 09:59 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-09 10:01 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) gamo <gamo@telecable.es> - 2016-01-09 16:52 +0100
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-09 11:07 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) gamo <gamo@telecable.es> - 2016-01-09 17:31 +0100
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-09 12:30 -0500
              Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) stepore <linshine@here.now> - 2016-01-09 10:33 -0800
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) gamo <gamo@telecable.es> - 2016-01-09 21:47 +0100
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-10 10:03 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) gamo <gamo@telecable.es> - 2016-01-10 17:39 +0100
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-10 12:28 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) gamo <gamo@telecable.es> - 2016-01-10 19:03 +0100
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-10 19:26 +0100
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) gamo <gamo@telecable.es> - 2016-01-10 19:31 +0100
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-10 14:15 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) gamo <gamo@telecable.es> - 2016-01-10 21:08 +0100
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-10 22:37 +0100
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-10 18:57 -0500
              Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-01-10 14:30 -0600
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) gamo <gamo@telecable.es> - 2016-01-10 22:40 +0100
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-10 20:56 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-01-11 08:52 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-01-11 10:11 -0600
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-01-11 09:06 -0800
              Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) system8752@home.comm - 2016-01-11 01:10 -0600
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Harold Stevens <wookie@cindy.localdomain> - 2016-01-11 06:21 -0600
          Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-01-11 08:29 -0500
            Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-11 08:54 -0500
              Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2016-01-11 12:06 -0800
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-11 16:53 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2016-01-11 16:25 -0800
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-12 02:42 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-11 16:54 -0500
                Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Catzilla <catzilla@pussyboss.invalid> - 2016-01-12 00:20 +0000
            Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-01-11 09:03 -0800
  Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) pioruns <cvbehaf@b2.cy> - 2016-01-07 20:08 +0000
  Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) F8BOE <f8boe@bluemail.ch> - 2016-01-08 07:47 +0100
    Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-08 06:45 -0500
      Re: Vote for Ubuntu! ;) mike antipasto <pizzadude@mycomputerrox.org> - 2016-01-09 00:15 -0500
  Re: Vote for Your Distro Big Al <Big_Al@invalid.com> - 2016-01-11 12:58 -0500

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