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Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts

From	Slimer <.m@nsn.s>
Newsgroups	alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.computer.security, alt.hacker, alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts
Date	2016-01-01 12:33 -0500
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID	<n66d4i$7ic$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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On 2016-01-01 12:03 PM, Ezekiel wrote:
> "Slimer" <.m@nsn.s> wrote in message
> news:n6694l$o20$1@dont-email.me...
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>> On 2016-01-01 10:56 AM, Ezekiel wrote:
>>> "Gary Heston" <gheston@hiwaay.net> wrote in message 
>>> news:VcidnVxWddRnBxvLnZ2dnUU7-dOdnZ2d@posted.hiwaay2...
>>>> In article
>>>> <980f9462a82a86eed3c1a1e355a5eda2@remailer.cpunk.us>, Jack
>>>> Ryan  <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> wrote: [ ... ]
>>>> 
>>>>> You know, those highly secure linux email servers that the 
>>>>> Chinese hacked and were reading the whole time she had it
>>>>> in operation.
>>>> 
>>>> I believe Clintons' server was running Exchange. I've had to 
>>>> support Exchange in the past, it's a horrible resource hog
>>>> that is a major headache. No way to back up or restore an
>>>> individual mailbox, when it glitches, trouble shooting is
>>>> difficult.
>>>> 
>>>> I've made no effort to keep my Exchange certification
>>>> current. I do not recommend it; almost anything will be
>>>> easier to use.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> The alternative is IBM Notes (ie Lotus Notes). Notes certainly 
>>> isn't a model of speed and efficiency.
>> 
>> That's what we used at my last tech job (in 2004). I can't
>> remember one time during which e-mail was speedy. In addition to
>> that, the clients they asked us to use were unintuitive and
>> butt-ugly.
>> 
>>> For companies that need this sort of software there aren't
>>> many choices unless they want to try and roll their own.
>> 
>> Exchange seems to be the most capable and that's what sells it.
>> 
> 
> A telling hint is what you see in the "auto-complete" in the Google
> search bar. Start searching for Exchange and Notes and it starts to
> auto-complete to some sort of "migration tool from Notes to
> Exchange"
> 
> I've never used Exchange. The last 3 employers were all Lotus
> Notes. Notes basically sucks but it gets the job done.

It gets the job done is not what you want to hear if quality is your
principal concern. In the midst of getting the job done, Notes
repeatedly becomes slow and unresponsive to the point that it rejects
whatever you send at it or keeps it in limbo. That is nowhere near
what I would consider to be efficiency.

I'm curious though, if neither Exchange nor Notes is of interest, what
would the Linux advocates suggest for similar functionality?


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Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Jeremy Bentham <nobody@anemone.mooo.com> - 2015-12-31 11:34 +0100
  Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts edevils <use_replyto_address@devils.com> - 2015-12-31 12:29 +0100
    Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Mike Swift <mike.swift@yeton.co.uk> - 2015-12-31 11:47 +0000
      Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2016-01-01 05:40 -0500
        Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) - 2016-01-01 09:27 -0600
          Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-01-01 10:56 -0500
            Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-01 11:25 -0500
              Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-01-01 12:03 -0500
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-01 12:33 -0500
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts edevils <use_replyto_address@devils.com> - 2016-01-01 20:00 +0100
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-01 14:46 -0500
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-02 01:09 +0000
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-01 22:10 -0500
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-02 03:39 +0000
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-01 22:45 -0500
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-02 04:44 +0000
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-02 11:01 -0500
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts linuxiac <linuxiac@usa.com> - 2016-01-02 16:38 +0000
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-02 12:04 -0500
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-03 01:33 +0000
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts edevils <use_replyto_address@devils.com> - 2016-01-03 11:57 +0100
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-03 21:40 +0000
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Ed Mullen <ejEMOVER@edmullen.net> - 2016-01-03 23:22 -0500
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-04 04:54 +0000
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201601.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2016-01-05 09:05 +0100
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2016-01-04 19:06 +0000
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-04 15:18 -0600
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Anonymous <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> - 2016-01-04 21:57 +0100
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2016-01-04 09:46 -0500
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Anonymous <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> - 2016-01-02 09:41 +0100
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) - 2016-01-02 09:44 -0600
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts "Rolf" <rolflxxx@somecompany.com> - 2016-01-02 23:34 +0100
              Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Anonymous <anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net> - 2016-01-02 04:14 -0500
            Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) - 2016-01-01 18:02 -0600
              Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-01-02 16:41 -0500
            Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2016-01-02 12:17 +0100
          Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2016-01-02 02:52 -0500
            Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2016-01-02 07:41 -0200
              Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2016-01-02 16:15 -0500
    Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2016-01-01 12:30 +0000
  Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Nobody <not@home.anymore> - 2015-12-31 20:56 +0000
    Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2016-01-01 13:00 +0000
  Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2016-01-02 07:38 -0200
    Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Charlie <cdknospam@msn.com> - 2016-01-06 21:12 -0500

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