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On 12/22/2015 5:13 PM, benj wrote:
> On 12/22/2015 01:34 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 12/22/2015 12:12 PM, benj wrote:
>>> The easiest way to judge the quality of work is to look at publications.
>>> If there are many, it's average. If it's suppressed then it may be a
>>> very important new idea that is too powerful to be allowed out.
>>
>> Ben, please. This is your paranoid delusion kicking in. There are TWO
>> reasons why a subject might have a low number of publications. One is
>> that it is terrible science that no one is able to replicate, like the
>> result of Pons and Fleischman. The other possible reason is that it is
>> novel but threatening somehow and it gets suppressed as being "too
>> powerful to be allowed out". Now, which of these is MORE LIKELY to be
>> the most common reason?
>
> Odd please. Don't tell us again now governments don't lie, how
> politicians all have the citizen's best interests at heart, how nothing
> is ever classified, how ufos have not been covered up for years. yada
> yada yada. Nobody buys that tripe anymore.

Ben, you are all black and white. Yes, governments have lied. This does 
not mean that the government lies ALL THE TIME. Yes, some scientists 
have committed fraud. This does not mean that nothing that scientists do 
can be trusted.

>
>> Keep in mind that there have been lots of very powerful and very
>> important new ideas that have generated LOTS of publications. That's a
>> historical fact. So given that, why would only the "forbidden" ideas be
>> the ones that are suppressed?
>
> Not going to explain this to you. You are probably dishonest enough to
> already know the answer.

Really, if you don't have an explanation that makes sense, then I think 
that says a lot.

>
>> Again, I believe what's going on with you is that you are frustrated
>> that ideas YOU are interested in are not getting many publications, and
>> you can't seem to swallow the likelihood that you've been pursuing crap
>> science. Because you view yourself as a GOOD scientist, and so the stuff
>> you're interested in couldn't possibly be crap science, right?
>
> You are really the pop psychologist, aren't you? You know all about me!

No, I don't know all about you. But I know a bit about you, and so can 
anybody else who just listens to you rant for just a little while.

> Sure. Why are you anonymous? Scared? Incompetent? Worried about your pop
> psychology patients looking you up? Yawn. Nobody gives a crap about your
> parrot lies (as someone here likes to say). There is more to life than
> publications.

That's what you tell yourself. But it still stings doesn't it?

> The people who paid me were happy enough with the quality
> of the work.  And I'm CERTAIN they'd never hire you even to sweep the
> floor (unless you are black).
>
> Your idea of science is fantasy and dreamland. Turn off your TV, cancel
> all your subscriptions, stop seeing movies and get a REAL education. The
> best way to do that is to first, sign up to help with some candidate's
> campaign and then run for office yourself. You will end up REALLY educated!

I think you should consider the fact that there are lots of people with 
as much experience as you, as much insider contact, and they don't have 
the bitterness and cynicism that you carry around with you. Why do you 
suppose that is?


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Re: Future Advances in Physics... "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 12:17 -0800
  Re: Future Advances in Physics... Timo <timo@physics.uq.edu.au> - 2015-12-19 13:22 -0800
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 03:27 -0500
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Timo <timo@physics.uq.edu.au> - 2015-12-21 00:57 -0800
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 14:00 -0500
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 14:21 -0600
            Re: Future Advances in Physics... Timo <timo@physics.uq.edu.au> - 2015-12-21 17:12 -0800
              Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 21:44 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 07:53 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 13:12 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 12:34 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 18:13 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 08:14 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 14:03 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 16:16 -0800
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 22:24 -0800
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-12-27 14:03 -0800
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-27 16:48 -0800
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 12:38 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 18:20 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 08:16 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 14:09 -0500
            Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 21:20 -0500
              Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 07:38 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 13:03 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 12:23 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 17:56 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 17:46 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 20:11 -0800
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 05:14 -0800
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 08:21 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 00:48 -0800
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 11:13 -0600
              Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 07:44 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 13:05 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 12:28 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 18:03 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 10:14 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 10:32 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 22:00 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 21:57 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 11:12 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 21:19 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 13:03 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 14:12 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 22:22 -0800

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