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Re: Forth at GitHub

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On 23/11/2015 18:00, rickman wrote:
> On 11/23/2015 12:41 PM, Gerry Jackson wrote:
>> On 20/11/2015 18:02, rickman wrote:
>>> On 11/20/2015 12:24 PM, Gerry Jackson wrote:
>>>> On 20/11/2015 01:15, Unknown wrote:
>>>>> There seems to have been no activity recently and it's moved
>>>>> from sourceforge to github. Which is another load of hollywood
>>>>> style crap!!   Typically:--
>>>>>
>>>>> ] Please note that GitHub no longer supports old versions of Firefox.
>>>>> ] We recommend upgrading to the latest Safari, Google Chrome, or
>>>>> Firefox.
>>>>>
>>>>> Screw these hollywood clowns !!
>>>>
>>>> Why this anger? It's easy enough to update an old version of Firefox or
>>>> whatever browser you use. People who stick with old versions are the
>>>> bane of a web developer's life and deserve such a message, if not
>>>> worse.
>>>
>>> Continually updating browsers is the single biggest consumer of memory
>>> on my PCs.  I have old desktops that are essentially no longer usable
>>> because I can no longer have more than a handful of tabs open.  When I
>>> keep a machine update free the browser continues to operate just fine
>>> without needing multiple GB of RAM.
>>>
>>
>> So you're using obsolete (probably) hardware
>
> I'm not sure what value there is in labeling older hardware "obsolete".
>   If you wish to define it as such then this conversation is at an end
> by definition.  But the fact remains I have computers that are faster
> than the processor in a cell phone or tablet and yet get straddled with
> browsers that can't work effectively in 1 GB of memory on the machine.
>
> Are all the processors in phones and tablet obsolete as well?

What's that got to do with it?
>
>
>> with an outdated and
>> therefore unsupported (probably) OS
>
> Again, who cares if how many years has passed since the OS was made?

Possibly people running Windows XP and older no longer supported by MS

>
>
>> running an outdated and therefore
>> unsupported (probably) browser that doesn't handle standard HTML and may
>> not even know what CSS is and you expect web-sites to cater for you?

Given the rest of your post that's a "yes" then.
>
> None of the browsers handle "standard" HTML.  They correctly interpret a
> subset.

I don't think so, to display all web-sites they interpret several 
standards for backward compatibility, ranging from early non-standards 
to HTML4, XHTMl and HTML5, as well as versions of CSS & Javascript as 
well as interpreting badly structured written HTML. Perhaps that 
explains the bloat you experience. It's HTML writers who have to use a 
subset of HTML.

> Everyone who writes HTML knows they have to test on all of the
> browsers they support

True and blindingly obvious.

> since testing against the HTML standard does not
> assure your page will be properly presented.

Modern HTML doesn't address presentation, only content, presentation is 
the job of CSS.

>
> Again, at the time the machine was new it worked and worked well.  If I
> don't update the browser it continues to work well.  When I update to
> the current version of the browsers memory disappears in a puff of smoke
> on opening more than a handful of tabs.  I think the cause is obvious.
>

Well you're just a victim of the ever-onward march of technology.

-- 
Gerry

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Re: Forth at GitHub Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2015-11-03 08:30 +0100
  Re: Forth at GitHub Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2015-11-20 01:15 +0000
    Re: Forth at GitHub Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-11-20 17:24 +0000
      Re: Forth at GitHub Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2015-11-20 17:48 +0000
        Re: Forth at GitHub rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-11-20 13:03 -0500
        Re: Forth at GitHub Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-11-20 18:16 +0000
      Re: Forth at GitHub rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-11-20 13:02 -0500
        Re: Forth at GitHub Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-11-23 17:41 +0000
          Re: Forth at GitHub rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 13:00 -0500
            Re: Forth at GitHub Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-11-23 20:29 +0000
            Re: Forth at GitHub Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-11-24 00:48 -0800

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