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Re: The great 9/11 mystery has been solved

From moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups alt.conspiracy, sci.physics
Subject Re: The great 9/11 mystery has been solved
Date 2015-11-16 16:06 +0000
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"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> writes:

>"Michael Moroney" <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message 
>news:n2bd21$o4a$2@pcls7.std.com...

>>>> All nukes leave a distinctive seismic signature.  Remember?  It's part
>>>> of your excellent Duck Test disproving nukes!
>>
>>>Not mine.
>>
>> Don't be so modest, Roger! It was you who came up with the excellent Duck
>> Test that disproves conclusively that nukes could not have been used on
>> 9/11.  You came up with the other excellent Duck Test disproving CGIs as
>> well!!

>But it was you who changed the rules and tried to make MRR nukes follow the 
>same rules as American made nukes.

MRR nukes?  I don't have a kooktionary so I don't know what your made-up
kookwords mean.  I assume that the M stands for "magic"?  Since you proved
that the only ways nukes could have been used must involve magic or 
something.

>>>  But we can use when the North Tower shook as if it were a tuning
>>>fork as an earthquake.
>>
>> Perhaps it did shake like a tuning fork as it started collapsing.  But it
>> did not leave a 5.5 magnitude earthquake (2.3, yes), and it did not
>> produce a distinctive nuclear detonation signature, either.  Just like you
>> showed in your Duck Test!!

>And I've asked you before and you failed to answer if it started to collapse 
>then why did it do nothing for about 12 seconds?

>And since when have you seen a collapsing building shake and then do nothing 
>and then collapse from near the top down when no other buildings in the 
>world have ever collapsed from near the top down?

But did it "shake and do nothing for 12 seconds" before collapsing?  You
never proved anything like that.  But it doesn't really matter.  We will
never know the fine details of the sequence of internal failures before
the full collapse started, as any witnesses were killed, but it is easy to
see how some major structural component could have failed causing internal
collapses and lots of vibration/noise, then nothing for several seconds,
then another major failure that led to global collapse.

>And they didn't just collapse in a weird way but what they left on the 
>ground was even weirder with one wall very high and the staircase closest to
>that wall 6 floors high and the wall furthest from the surviving wall all 
>the way down to the ground.  

Nothing weird about the collapse.  Just a huge pile of debris and remains
of a broken building, just like you show us over and over again in that
NOAA photo with the kookscribbles added.

>To date only an off-center deep underground MRR nuke explains the remains of 
>both the Twin Towers:

You heve never explained how "only" a nuke could do that, much less 
explained how a nuke could have even happened, with all the disproofs of
nukes being used you gave us in your excellent Duck Test.

>And given that you think over 90% of Flight 93 was recovered despite the 
>fact the photographic evidence of that event proves otherwise proves you are 
>a sucker for bullshit stories.

What photographic evidence "proves" 95% of Flight 93 was not recovered?
There isn't any such thing, as you cannot prove a negative like that.

>> Diversion noted.  As I pointed out, if Ground Zero had been nuked, it
>> would still be radioactive.  Just like you noted in your Duck Test!!

>But all you have proven so far is you were wrong about deep underground 
>nukes making a flash or an EMP as proven by a video from dmaster on 
>alt.conspiracy.

Nope, no such proof has been provided.  (And remember, if you saw that
"proof" in a kookvid, remember that you were the one who proved that all
kookvids lie!)

>And I've asked you over and over and over to try and find some information 
>about deep underground nukes because you seem to think they are no different 
>then nukes detonated way above ground.

I already gave you information about deep underground nukes, none of which
applies anyway, since you kookclaim your magic nukes were only 27 meters 
underground.

>But now not only do I want you to post info about deep underground nukes but 
>on top of that they have to be MRR nukes and not American made nukes.

As I said, I don't have a kooktionary so I don't know what your made up
kookwords mean.  But I guess that "MRR nukes", whatever they are, must be
made in China since everything else is.

>>>>  It's safe enough to visit, but you are
>>>> not allowed to take any of the "trinitite" (radioactive glassy melted
>>>> sand) as a souvineer. So the World Trade Center site would measure as
>>>> radioactive even today, had there been nukes.  The fact that it isn't is
>>>> another part of your awesome Duck Test proof of no nukes.
>>
>>>You have already forgotten that the place where the big nukes were 
>>>detonated
>>>have been buried in concrete.
>>
>> Doesn't matter.  The whole site would still be radioactive.  It's not.

>You have already forgotten about MRR nukes and that America does not make 
>them so where are you getting your information from?

Nukes make things radioactive.  Period.  Fission produces fission products
which are as hot as hell at first.  Fusion irradiates everything with
neutrons which are really effective at killing people and they activate 
nearby matter making it really, really radioactive.

>>>  You have even seen a photo of that on that
>>>page that talks about an alleged ice age pothole that was not consistent
>>>with an ice age pothole but it was consistent with a hole from a nuke that
>>>was directed more at WTC2 then WTC4.
>>
>> Nope, a nuke would have left a crater hundreds of feet in diameter, not 40
>> feet. Just like you pointed out in your Duck Test!

>ROTFLMAO and that is more of your Flight 93 bullshit where none of the 
>photos taken in Pranksville, PA show anywhere near 93% of Flight 93 being 
>found.  <G>

But you can't deny that a real nuke would have left a crater hundreds or
even thousands of feet wide, not an itty bitty glacial pothole.

>>>And again, if there is a pre existing cavity there will not be any
>>>noticeable seismic signature
>>
>> Nope.  You're just making crap up again.  What do you think happens when
>> the blast wave hits the wall of the "pre existing cavity"?  It gets
>> transferred to the rock!

>But that isn't normal rock since it has already been compressed by a lot of 
>heat and pressure so what is going to move then?

What?  Are you now kookclaiming that there were two nuclear blasts, one
which made the "pre existing cavity" with its walls "compressed by a lot 
of heat and pressure" (and itself was magically not detected), then the
other nuke detonated inside it?  Your lunacy gets just crazier and 
crazier!


>  Don't forget that rock 
>next to a nuclear demoltion is called Trinitite and they found that at GZ 
>also.

Nope, trinitite specifically refers to what is found at the "Trinity"  
site, which has a different starting soil composition than Manhattan 
bedrock.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinitite
And of course, you have no evidence any sort of molten/fused rock similar 
to trinitite was found at Ground Zero  (Hey! You can add that fact to your
"Duck Test" proof!)

>But you used the wrong test for MRR nukes and you keep thinking of American 
>made nukes and they don't make MRR nukes.  DUH

OK, so even without a kooktionary I have figured out that "MRR nukes" must
be made in China (since everything else is) and the M stands for "magic"
or "magical" since that's the only way they could be possible.  I did not
know the Chinese possessed magic, however.

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The great 9/11 mystery has been solved "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-11-11 16:40 -0600
  Re: The great 9/11 mystery has been solved moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-11-11 23:21 +0000
    Re: The great 9/11 mystery has been solved "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-11-12 10:00 -0600
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        Re: The great 9/11 mystery has been solved Shoe-Chucker 2 <georgewk10@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-15 01:26 -0800
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        Re: The great 9/11 mystery has been solved "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-11-15 09:41 -0600
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            Re: The great 9/11 mystery has been solved "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-11-15 20:46 -0600
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            Re: The great 9/11 mystery has been solved "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-11-15 17:37 -0600
          Re: The great 9/11 mystery has been solved "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 04:21 -0600
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            Re: The great 9/11 mystery has been solved moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-11-15 22:55 +0000
              Re: The great 9/11 mystery has been solved "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-11-15 17:15 -0600
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                Re: The great 9/11 mystery has been solved "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-11-16 13:37 -0600
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                Re: The great 9/11 mystery has been solved Shoe-Chucker 2 <georgewk10@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-30 08:05 -0800
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