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Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF

From "A.G.McDowell" <andrew-mcdowell@o2.co.uk>
Newsgroups rec.arts.sf.written
Subject Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF
Date 2015-11-12 21:11 +0000
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On 12/11/2015 18:40, James Nicoll wrote:
> In article<nxnq6y.s4v@kithrup.com>,
> Dorothy J Heydt<djheydt@kithrup.com>  wrote:
>> In article<n1vj0j$rsk$1@panix2.panix.com>,
>> William December Starr<wdstarr@panix.com>  wrote:
>>> In article<dag6h7Fr424U1@mid.individual.net>,
>>> Mike M<mike@xenocyte.com>  said:
>>>
>>>> For the 70s, no one seems to have mentioned George RR Martin, who might
>>>> be seen as a "gateway drug" for today's _Game of Thrones_ obsessed youth.
>>>>
>>>> Any of
>>>>
>>>> Sandkings (1979)
>>>> The Way of Cross and Dragon (1978)
>>>> A Song for Lya (1976)
>>>
>>> I don't know that I'd give "Sandkings" to people, at least not
>>> without specific warnings.  It's well-written and very good at what
>>> it does, but what it does is horror and not everybody wants that
>>> injected into their brains.
>>
>> Hear, hear.
>>
>> My daughter and son-in-law are very gothy, and when I went
>> upstairs to their part of the house last night they were watching
>> the tube.  "What's that?" said I.  "American Horror Story," my
>> daughter said.  "You don't want to watch it."  Which led me to
>> muse that there's only one horror film that I ever liked, and
>> that was the first _Poltergeist_ movie, because it was so well
>> done.
>>
>> That's why upthread I suggested James be very choosy about
>> Cordwainer Smith, because so much of his work is so very grim.
>>
> Given how popular YA dystopias are, I don't think grim is an issue.
>
>
>
My sister informed me some time ago that YA reading material aimed at my 
Nephew tended to explore some of the grittier side of life, so I guess I 
can confirm this, however inconsistent it might seem with the current 
topics of microagressions, trigger warnings, and safe spaces.

If you are looking to investigate lack of fit between period of writing 
and period of reading, you really need to find a way to throw some 
E.E.Smith at your subjects, if only because his futuristic slang terms 
appear to have been somewhat out of registration even when they were 
written. I have seen attempts to produce collections of excerpts, such 
as http://www.amazon.co.uk/Best-E-E-Smith-Orbit-Books/dp/0860078736 (I 
suspect an ideological agenda behind this, but I can't resist imagining 
a PC reaction to Smith's dialogue for Shiro in the early Skylark books 
just out of devilment).

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Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-11-10 02:00 +0000
  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Catherine Jefferson <spamtrap@spambouncer.org> - 2015-11-09 18:59 -0800
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-09 22:24 -0500
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-09 21:23 -0800
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-10 05:30 +0000
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-11-09 23:17 -0700
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-11-10 09:35 -0500
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-10 16:35 +0000
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-11 11:52 -0500
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 12:39 -0500
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-11 11:54 -0500
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-11-10 01:38 -0700
  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-09 22:16 -0500
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-09 22:38 -0500
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-11-10 03:52 +0000
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-10 05:33 +0000
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-10 17:34 -0500
  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-11-09 20:31 -0700
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-11-10 09:38 -0500
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-10 16:37 +0000
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-11-10 12:44 -0500
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-11-10 12:28 -0700
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-11-10 14:39 -0500
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2015-11-10 12:28 -0800
              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-11-10 23:35 -0500
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-11 00:09 -0500
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 21:46 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-11 06:00 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com> - 2015-11-17 04:22 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 12:31 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Dan Tilque <dtilque@frontier.com> - 2015-11-17 13:03 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-18 13:11 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-11-18 15:35 -0700
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-11-19 15:00 -0500
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-11-19 15:06 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-11-19 21:46 -0600
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-11-10 11:41 -0800
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-11-10 23:32 -0500
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-10 10:43 -0800
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-11-11 07:49 -0600
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-11-11 06:55 -0800
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-11 15:59 -0500
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-11-11 13:16 -0800
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-11 17:44 -0500
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-13 03:52 -0800
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-13 13:21 -0500
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-11 15:31 +0000
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-11-11 13:33 -0500
  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-09 21:27 -0800
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-09 21:30 -0800
  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-11-09 22:51 -0800
  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-11-10 01:35 -0700
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-11-10 15:57 +0000
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-10 08:19 -0800
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-11-10 12:38 -0700
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 21:50 -0800
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-11 03:07 -0500
  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Mike Dworetsky" <platinum198@pants.btinternet.com> - 2015-11-10 08:41 +0000
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-10 14:26 +0000
  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-11-10 06:37 -0800
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-10 17:40 -0500
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF BCFD36 <bcfd36@cruzio.com> - 2015-11-10 17:45 -0800
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF PeterM <petermeilinger@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 18:00 -0800
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-11-13 15:58 +0000
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-11-11 06:54 -0800
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 10:37 -0800
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-11-12 18:23 +0000
  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 11:15 -0500
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-11-10 16:44 +0000
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-11-10 19:59 +0000
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-11-10 14:43 -0800
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Robert A. Woodward" <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2015-11-10 22:08 -0800
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-11 06:16 +0000
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-11-12 18:25 +0000
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-12 21:26 +0000
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-11-13 15:59 +0000
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Michael R N Dolbear" <me@privacy.net> - 2015-11-10 23:20 +0000
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-11-10 18:11 -0800
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Robert A. Woodward" <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2015-11-10 21:59 -0800
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-11-11 07:52 -0600
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-11 05:53 +0000
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Michael R N Dolbear" <me@privacy.net> - 2015-11-11 15:41 +0000
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 08:15 -0800
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-11-11 16:49 +0000
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-11 19:34 +0000
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 09:33 -0800
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-11-12 09:51 -0800
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-11-12 23:46 -0500
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-11-12 18:32 +0000
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF JRStern <JRStern@foobar.invalid> - 2015-11-27 21:58 -0800
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-28 09:31 -0800
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-11 10:52 -0800
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-11 19:38 +0000
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-11 11:52 -0800
              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-11 17:47 -0500
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-11 15:15 -0800
              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-11-12 11:14 -0500
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-12 16:55 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-11-12 09:18 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-11-12 09:40 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-11-12 17:49 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-11-12 12:37 -0700
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Erik Trulsson <erikt@Update.UU.SE> - 2015-11-16 13:40 +0000
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                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-12 17:32 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-12 17:54 -0800
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-11-11 13:25 -0800
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 07:24 -0800
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-11-12 09:02 -0800
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-11-12 17:51 +0000
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-12 17:46 -0800
              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 05:01 -0500
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-11-11 17:36 -0600
  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-11-10 08:22 -0800
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-11-10 19:59 +0000
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF nance@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) - 2015-11-13 13:44 +0000
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-13 10:25 -0800
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-14 06:25 -0800
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  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Wayne Brown <fwbrown@bellsouth.net> - 2015-11-10 16:36 +0000
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    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-11-12 14:44 +0000
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    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-10 17:49 -0500
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-11-11 01:01 -0500
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  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "A.G.McDowell" <andrew-mcdowell@o2.co.uk> - 2015-11-10 21:15 +0000
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-11-10 21:36 +0000
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2015-11-10 21:40 +0000
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-10 16:33 -0800
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        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "artyw2@yahoo.com" <artyw2@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-12 13:43 -0800
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-11-13 16:03 +0000
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF nance@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) - 2015-11-16 14:57 +0000
              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-11-16 09:25 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-11-16 12:51 -0500
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-16 14:51 -0500
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-16 21:09 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-11-17 08:41 -0500
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 12:19 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-16 15:57 -0500
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 20:59 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-11-17 08:47 -0500
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 12:43 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2015-11-18 11:38 +0000
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                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 12:18 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF nance@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) - 2015-11-20 17:57 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-11-20 11:59 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Robert A. Woodward" <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2015-11-16 22:15 -0800
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                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-11-16 15:36 -0500
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 12:42 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-16 21:13 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-11-16 13:54 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Wayne Brown <fwbrown@bellsouth.net> - 2015-11-16 23:28 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Robert A. Woodward" <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2015-11-16 22:00 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Robert A. Woodward" <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2015-11-17 21:53 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF nance@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) - 2015-11-20 18:50 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-11-20 12:05 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-20 23:07 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-11-20 21:34 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-21 06:18 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 14:35 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-22 00:34 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 19:41 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-22 03:58 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-21 20:55 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 12:28 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "artyw2@yahoo.com" <artyw2@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-23 16:35 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-24 03:50 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-11-24 04:16 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF nance@math.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Nance) - 2015-11-24 12:55 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "artyw2@yahoo.com" <artyw2@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-24 06:35 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-11-24 06:57 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-11-24 11:44 -0500
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-11-24 11:43 -0500
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> - 2015-11-22 13:51 +1300
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-22 01:36 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-21 19:27 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-11-16 23:27 -0700
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 19:12 -0500
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-17 01:55 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-16 21:18 -0500
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 22:45 -0500
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-17 05:58 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-11-16 23:23 -0700
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-11 05:57 +0000
  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "A.G.McDowell" <andrew-mcdowell@o2.co.uk> - 2015-11-10 21:35 +0000
  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-11-10 23:58 +0000
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-11-10 23:58 -0500
      Rolling Roads Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-11-11 01:24 -0700
        Re: Rolling Roads David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-11-11 01:34 -0700
          Re: Rolling Roads Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-11 07:09 -0800
            Re: Rolling Roads "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 18:40 -0500
              Re: Rolling Roads David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-11-11 18:28 -0700
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-11-11 03:40 -0800
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-11-11 14:20 +0000
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-11-11 09:31 -0500
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-11-11 15:56 +0000
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-11-12 11:17 -0500
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-11-11 07:11 -0800
  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF BCFD36 <bcfd36@cruzio.com> - 2015-11-10 17:42 -0800
  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF synthius2002@yahoo.com - 2015-11-10 20:23 -0800
  Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-11-11 06:46 +0000
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-11 03:13 -0500
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-11-11 09:23 -0500
      Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-11 15:40 +0000
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-11-12 18:40 +0000
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "A.G.McDowell" <andrew-mcdowell@o2.co.uk> - 2015-11-12 21:11 +0000
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-11-12 23:55 -0500
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-11-12 22:02 -0700
              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-11-13 14:59 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-13 08:17 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-11-13 17:01 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF John Savard <quadibloc@barney-mail.invalid> - 2015-11-13 16:27 +0000
              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-11-13 14:14 -0500
        Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Steve Coltrin <spcoltri@omcl.org> - 2015-11-13 21:45 -0700
          Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-14 06:08 +0000
            Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Steve Coltrin <spcoltri@omcl.org> - 2015-11-16 18:18 -0700
              Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-17 01:56 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Raymond Daley" <raymond.daley@ntlworld.com> - 2015-11-18 19:55 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-18 20:55 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Michael Ikeda <mmikeda@erols.com> - 2015-11-18 23:48 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-11-18 20:23 -0500
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2015-11-19 01:35 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-19 03:28 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2015-11-19 14:45 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-11-19 10:01 -0500
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-11-19 07:19 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-19 15:54 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-19 16:56 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-11-19 10:55 -0500
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-19 18:34 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-11-19 10:50 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-19 19:21 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-20 05:11 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-20 15:00 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-11-19 14:08 -0500
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-19 03:21 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Raymond Daley" <raymond.daley@ntlworld.com> - 2015-11-22 15:34 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-22 16:25 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Raymond Daley" <raymond.daley@ntlworld.com> - 2015-11-22 17:32 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-22 18:03 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-11-22 13:21 -0500
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-22 21:33 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-11-22 19:25 -0500
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-23 01:15 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-11-23 14:31 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-24 00:05 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF leif.roar@dimnakorr.com - 2015-11-24 02:24 -0600
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-11-24 04:39 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-11-24 07:51 -0500
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-11-22 10:41 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Raymond Daley" <raymond.daley@ntlworld.com> - 2015-11-22 21:16 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-11-19 15:03 -0500
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-11-19 15:22 -0500
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-11-19 15:32 -0500
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-11-19 20:56 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-11-19 16:19 -0500
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-11-19 13:14 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-11-19 16:22 -0500
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-11-19 13:49 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-11-19 14:28 -0700
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-11-19 16:30 -0500
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-11-19 14:31 -0700
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-11-19 21:37 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-11-19 16:50 -0500
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-11-19 13:53 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-11-19 21:56 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-11-19 18:17 -0500
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-11-19 18:43 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-11-19 22:24 -0600
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-11-19 22:31 -0600
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-11-19 14:38 -0700
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-11-19 13:59 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-11-19 13:51 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-19 21:46 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2015-11-19 03:55 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-19 05:36 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-11-19 06:53 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Chrysi Cat <chrysicat@gmail.com> - 2015-11-20 02:37 -0700
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-20 11:36 +0000
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-11-20 03:08 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-11-19 05:05 -0800
                Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF Steve Coltrin <spcoltri@omcl.org> - 2015-11-19 08:16 -0700
    Re: Do My Homework! Young People Read Old SF mzenier@eskimo.com (Mark Zenier) - 2015-11-11 19:09 +0000
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