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Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC.

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC.
Date 2015-11-10 08:53 -0600
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On 11/9/2015 5:53 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 17:05:15 -0600, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>
>>
>> Actually, you'll find that most of the unnatural constructs of society
>> were imposed by organized agriculture.
>>
>
> Most of the constructs of society are inborn.  They were already present
> in pre-agricultural tribalism and they are even present in pre-human
> hominids and primates.

This you claim. But you haven't actually expounded on your theories 
about this, have you? Let's start with explaining your hatred of women 
in terms of pre-agricultural tribalism and inborn traits exhibited by 
hominids and primates.

>
> Christianity, however, was a transmogrification of instinct that had
> kept the world in an ignorance that still persists today.

And so those who have never been Christian -- say Buddhists or Hindus -- 
do not suffer from this transmogrified instinct?

>
> Go back to school, Oddball. You, like most of the posters on this and
> other groups, have concentrated too much on STEM to the exclusion of
> all else.  In German, you would be termed a "Fachidiot."  We need a
> word like this in English.
>
>
>>
>> You, on the other hand, feel you have to know the ins and outs of your
>> computer, how it does what it does, what you can make it do ...
>>
>
> Since the pioneering days of John von Neumann and others, the computer
> has always been a GENERAL PURPOSE MACHINE.

I disagree. And so do a significant number of A.M.Turing award 
laureates: Minsky, Engelbart, Cerf, Knuth.

>
> This means that a computer can do nothing, but has the potential to do
> anything.
>
> Thus, the ONLY WAY to properly use a computer has been enumerated by
> you above.

Flatly disagree, as I have stated. Tools are made to adapt to need and 
value is assigned by consumer usage. The VALUE of personal computers 
today is as an appliance, regardless of what you think the intent of 
computers is.

>
>
>>
>> This is not slavery. This is delegation and optimization of effort, and
>> it is a GOOD thing to do.
>>
>
> Once the government, advised by you or your spiritual cohorts, begins
> to create another medieval guild system wherein only registered "specialists"
> are allowed to practice a given trade, then it will be slavery.
>

This exists today. Architects, engineers, plumbers, electricians, HVAC 
designers and installers, lawyers, doctors, dentists, chiropractors, 
hair salon workers, commercial kitchen chefs, school teachers, child 
care workers, nursing home workers, veterinarians, airplane pilots, 
truck drivers, crane operators, police officers, fire fighters --- NONE 
of these people can practice their trade without earning a license and 
being able to produce a maintained certificate of license. There is a 
reason for this. You may consider it slavery. But that is the social 
norm in existence, done on purpose. If you're not aware of it, then I'd 
say you're a little out of touch.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 02:20 +0000
  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 20:25 -0600
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 02:43 +0000
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 20:54 -0600
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 09:20 -0800
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 12:58 -0600
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 13:23 -0800
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Herp Derpington" <invali@example.com> - 2015-11-09 19:42 -0800
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 05:36 -0800
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 02:46 +0000
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 03:21 -0500
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 18:44 +0000
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 17:12 -0600
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 23:35 +0000
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 20:22 -0500
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 03:51 +0000
  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 20:02 -0700
    Circus Alert.. Don't take the bait Fabian Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 22:11 -0500
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 21:12 -0600
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 04:22 +0000
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 21:50 -0700
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 05:13 +0000
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 22:38 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-16 18:59 +0000
      Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-08 21:30 -0800
        Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 06:18 +0000
          Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-09 12:43 +0000
          Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 12:09 -0700
          Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:03 -0700
          Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-09 20:26 +0000
            Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:27 -0700
        Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 06:31 +0000
          Fabian Russell is disabled. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-08 23:12 -0800
          Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:03 -0700
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 03:12 -0500
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:04 -0700
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-09 12:39 +0000
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:01 -0700
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 20:04 +0000
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 15:18 -0500
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 21:01 +0000
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 16:08 -0500
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:35 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 13:54 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 20:54 +0000
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 21:13 +0000
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 17:17 -0500
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-09 23:24 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 17:36 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:37 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:32 -0700
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 13:04 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:30 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 18:44 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 03:58 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 21:38 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 08:18 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 15:15 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 10:49 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:25 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 12:45 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 22:30 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-10 17:37 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 18:04 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-11 01:30 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 18:59 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-11 03:15 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-11 07:22 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 10:20 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 21:32 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 14:51 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 22:13 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-12 23:17 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 15:28 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 22:38 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-12 18:40 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-12 23:24 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 00:33 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-13 10:57 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-13 12:21 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-13 12:26 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-13 14:57 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-13 17:04 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-13 07:25 -0600
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 11:48 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-13 17:09 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 20:39 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 15:43 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 21:30 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-16 09:27 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 22:18 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-16 09:29 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-12 18:39 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-13 10:55 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:26 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 15:26 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 22:42 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-12 16:06 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 23:25 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-12 23:36 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-12 18:46 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 00:35 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-13 14:54 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-13 14:53 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 17:40 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-12 18:37 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 00:40 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 18:01 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 01:29 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 18:47 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 02:29 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 19:34 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-12 21:45 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-12 21:03 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 02:26 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 19:35 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 02:51 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-12 22:00 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 03:36 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-12 22:41 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 20:00 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 03:18 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 01:49 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 10:27 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 11:15 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-13 11:30 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 11:32 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:25 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 12:27 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:41 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 12:40 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:47 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 12:52 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:06 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 10:25 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 10:28 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 11:52 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:02 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 12:15 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-12 21:44 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 10:24 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-14 01:01 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 20:08 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 20:17 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 02:07 +0000
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-09 21:48 +0100
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 14:23 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 21:25 +0000
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 14:37 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:41 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 21:07 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 04:05 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 21:48 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 08:20 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 15:18 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:29 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:28 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 12:46 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 16:36 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 18:32 -0500
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:39 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 18:46 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 04:09 +0000
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 21:47 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 08:21 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-10 14:48 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 10:34 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-10 18:27 +0100
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:31 -0700
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 20:51 +0000
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 21:21 +0000
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 21:49 +0000
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 15:12 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:48 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 04:14 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 21:47 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:33 -0700
            GhostScipt works well on Windows. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-09 16:09 -0800
              Re: GhostScipt works well on Windows. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 19:54 -0500
                Re: GhostScipt works well on Windows. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:49 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-11 09:42 +0000
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-11 13:29 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-11 13:08 +0000
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 16:58 -0500
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:43 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 04:18 +0000
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 21:46 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:49 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:48 -0700
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 04:56 +0000
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 22:15 -0700
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 05:27 +0000
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 22:43 -0700
  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-11-08 22:16 -0600
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 04:26 +0000
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-11-09 07:31 -0600
  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-09 10:14 +0000
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 18:02 +0000
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 12:15 -0700
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:06 -0700
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 14:13 -0500
  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-09 06:13 -0500
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-09 12:32 +0000
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 11:38 -0500
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-09 07:51 -0600
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 18:05 +0000
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 13:52 -0500
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 13:00 -0600
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 12:17 -0700
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:07 -0700
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-09 21:46 +0100
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 14:26 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:52 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-10 02:54 +0100
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:51 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-10 10:27 +0100
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-10 06:52 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-10 13:21 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-10 07:39 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:55 -0700
                Are the FOSS community "suckers", Kreep? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-10 07:12 -0600
                Re: Are the FOSS community "suckers", Kreep? Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-10 08:22 -0500
                Re: Are the FOSS community "suckers", Kreep? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-11 09:27 -0600
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:58 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-10 22:01 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-10 23:15 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 16:38 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-11 00:45 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-11 14:15 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 18:10 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-11 10:05 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-11 11:20 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-11 13:27 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 10:36 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-12 22:58 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 15:15 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-11 06:15 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 16:37 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 09:31 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:55 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:54 -0700
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 21:14 +0000
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:53 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-10 18:00 -0500
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 16:39 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-11 18:00 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-11-11 20:02 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-12 09:22 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-12 11:43 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-12 18:07 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-13 07:35 -0600
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-13 14:58 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-13 14:57 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-14 07:30 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-14 12:18 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-14 22:09 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-14 20:12 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-15 03:31 +0000
                To dvus. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-16 11:40 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-15 10:46 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-16 11:38 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-16 14:47 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-16 20:26 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-16 14:43 -0600
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-16 14:19 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-16 15:38 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-16 15:37 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-17 05:30 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-11-17 14:57 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-17 20:04 -0500
  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 08:14 -0500
  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 10:56 -0600
  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 11:25 -0600
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 13:30 -0500
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 16:21 -0600
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 20:37 -0500
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-10 18:08 -0500
    Fabian_Russell isn't all there. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-09 10:31 -0800
      Re: Fabian_Russell isn't all there. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 19:15 +0000
      Re: Fabian_Russell isn't all there. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 16:23 -0600
        Re: Fabian_Russell isn't all there. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 22:35 +0000
          Re: Fabian_Russell isn't all there. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 20:41 -0500
        Re: Fabian_Russell isn't all there. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 20:39 -0500
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 18:40 +0000
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 17:05 -0600
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Apollyon <adravirgo@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 15:14 -0800
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 17:36 -0600
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 00:07 +0000
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 23:53 +0000
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 08:53 -0600
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 15:58 +0000

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