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Re: About the resupply missions in "The Martian".

From Peter Fairbrother <peter@tsto.co.uk>
Newsgroups sci.space.policy, sci.chem, sci.physics, rec.arts.sf.science
Subject Re: About the resupply missions in "The Martian".
Date 2015-11-08 01:18 +0000
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On 07/11/15 21:24, Thomas Koenig wrote:
> Peter Fairbrother <peter@tsto.co.uk> schrieb:
>
>> Lithium (peroxide) canisters do not just absorb carbon dioxide, they
>> also produce oxygen:
>>
>> 2 Li2O2 + 2 CO2 → 2 Li2CO3 + O2
>
> Actually, it is water that is being produced.
>
> The net reaction is
>
> 2 LiO + CO2 --> Li2CO3 + H2O


There is no hydrogen in the input to your reaction to produce the water 
in the output of your reaction. It does not balance, in atomic terms.




Some early spacecraft canisters used lithium hydroxide or hydrated 
lithium hydroxide instead of lithium peroxide, which would produce water:

2 LiOH + CO2 ->  Li2CO3 + H2O

or for hydrated lithium hydroxide:

2 LiOH.H2O + CO2 → Li2CO3 + 3 H2O



Lithium hydroxide is still used in some other 
CO2-scrubbing-of-breathing-gas applications, eg scuba rebreathers and 
submarine emergency systems - but it isn't often used in spacecraft 
nowadays, lithium peroxide is generally preferred.





-- Peter Fairbrother

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