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| From | Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> |
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| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: CAlive on Google Groups |
| Date | 2015-11-04 10:32 +0000 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <n1cmnb$fjf$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On 04/11/15 10:00, David Brown wrote: > On 03/11/15 14:31, Richard Heathfield wrote: >> On 02/11/15 22:45, David Brown wrote: >> >>> Certainly there are some people in c.l.c. would strongly prefer that all >>> CAlive discussions take place somewhere else, such as a dedicated Google >>> Group. >> >> There are even some people in c.l.c. who would strongly prefer that all >> discussions that aren't about C should take place somewhere else, >> leaving the comp.lang.c newsgroup for discussions that *are* about C. >> Would that really be such a terrible thing? After all, there are tens of >> thousands of newsgroups. *Surely* there are places where such >> discussions are topical? Or, at least, *more* topical than they are >> here. For example, while I would not normally wish "my new language" >> discussions on comp.programming, I would suggest that "my new language" >> articles are a better fit for that newsgroup than for this one. > > When choosing a place to post about a topic, do you post it somewhere > that it is on topic, Yes. > or do you post it somewhere where there are people > that might be able to help or give advice? Yes. The most likely place where there are people who might be able to help or give advice is a newsgroup where the topic of my article is topical for that newsgroup. > The challenge with something > like CAlive is that there are /no/ good newsgroups (or other discussion > forums that I know of) where it is on topic, and where there also are > experienced and helpful developers who could get involved in the > discussion. Rick has been told repeatedly that c.l.c. is not the right > place for CAlive - no one has been able to give him a better > alternative. comp.programming is certainly a better alternative. comp.lang.misc is a possibility, although I don't subscribe to that newsgroup so I can't guarantee it. comp.lang.implementation might also be a possibility (same caveat applies). > (And have you looked at comp.programming? Yes, every day. > Most posts in > recent times are by the famous Ramine, and he is a write-only poster.) Yes, I check it regularly (usually to no avail). But have you noticed something about comp.programming? When someone actually asks a programming question in there, people /do/ respond. It's just that hardly anyone asks. I don't know why that is. Until relatively recently, comp.programming was a very lively group, and it could yet be rekindled (and usefully so) if only people would ask general programming questions in there instead of in comp.lang.c. > Now, it seems that Rick has moved over (or is moving over) to a Google > group for his CAlive discussions. Either he has drummed up enough > interest to get others to take part there, or all discussion on CAlive > will fade away. So the "problem" will disappear from c.l.c. Works for me. >>> And there are others who would find c.l.c. a drier, duller place >> >> You might be surprised to discover just how lively and engaging C >> discussions can be. >> > > There are certainly a few interesting threads here about C. And there > are certainly a few threads that can be very educational, where people > get generous help from the more experienced and knowledgeable > programmers. But there are also many that are extraordinarily tedious > and long-winded, with regular repetitions of the same material. Yes, I know. :-) > (Sometimes these too can be educational or have interesting points, but > it's a lot more work.) It is, and nowadays I tend to skip over such discussions, although an occasional howler might catch my eye and prompt me to respond briefly. > As Kenny said, the CAlive discussions have at times been entertaining > and provoked discussions and thought. That is not a bad thing, even if > the relationship with C is thin. (For my own part, the irony is that > these discussions have strongly encouraged my interest towards C++.) <shrug> C++ is a fine language. In fact, it's generally my second choice after C (and for some things it's my first choice). But of course there's a newsgroup for it, and This Isn't It. -- Richard Heathfield Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999 Sig line 4 vacant - apply within
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CAlive on Google Groups "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 09:05 -0800
Re: CAlive on Google Groups "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 09:11 -0800
Re: CAlive on Google Groups Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-02 19:14 +0100
Re: CAlive on Google Groups "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 10:20 -0800
Re: CAlive on Google Groups Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-02 19:23 +0100
Re: CAlive on Google Groups "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 10:24 -0800
Re: CAlive on Google Groups James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-11-02 13:30 -0500
Re: CAlive on Google Groups "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 10:32 -0800
Re: CAlive on Google Groups Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-11-02 18:44 +0000
Re: CAlive on Google Groups "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 10:46 -0800
Re: CAlive on Google Groups Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2015-11-02 14:04 -0500
Re: CAlive on Google Groups "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 11:21 -0800
Re: CAlive on Google Groups David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-11-02 20:25 +0100
Re: CAlive on Google Groups "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 12:04 -0800
Re: CAlive on Google Groups David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-11-02 23:45 +0100
Re: CAlive on Google Groups "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 17:50 -0800
Re: CAlive on Google Groups Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-03 00:52 -0800
Re: CAlive on Google Groups fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 01:46 -0800
Re: CAlive on Google Groups David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-11-03 12:59 +0100
Re: CAlive on Google Groups gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-11-03 14:22 +0000
Re: CAlive on Google Groups Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-11-03 13:31 +0000
Re: CAlive on Google Groups David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-11-04 11:00 +0100
Re: CAlive on Google Groups Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-11-04 10:32 +0000
Re: CAlive on Google Groups David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-11-04 13:34 +0100
Re: CAlive on Google Groups Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-11-04 13:00 +0000
Re: CAlive on Google Groups Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-04 06:25 -0800
Re: CAlive on Google Groups David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-11-04 20:52 +0100
Re: CAlive on Google Groups fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 12:49 -0800
Re: CAlive on Google Groups James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-11-04 08:49 -0500
Newsgroups (Was: CAlive on Google Groups) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-11-04 14:29 +0000
Re: Newsgroups Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 19:42 +0000
Re: Newsgroups Chad <cdalten@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 02:35 -0800
Re: Newsgroups Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-11-10 07:17 +1300
Re: Newsgroups Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-11-09 18:39 +0000
Re: Newsgroups Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-11-10 07:45 +1300
Re: Newsgroups gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-11-10 00:13 +0000
Re: CAlive on Google Groups Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-11-04 11:17 +0000
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