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Re: Women need choices, not enslavement.

From Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Women need choices, not enslavement.
Date 2015-11-03 08:56 -0500
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Message-ID <n1aeaq$jqa$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References (3 earlier) <slrnn3f4nm.848.jedi@nomad.mishnet> <n18l7d$cl1$7@dont-email.me> <bbf2ac270066dc7028ac589d1dd08dd1@dizum.com> <Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.2{5.39P.Seattle.2015}> <D25D7866.62843%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>

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On 2015-11-02 10:30 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 11/2/15, 6:39 PM, in article Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.2{5.39P.Seattle.2015},
> "Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote:
> 
>> Abortion benefits society, I'm sure.
>>
>> Women need choices, not enslavement.
> 
> Those that oppose choice and say it is because they think the fetus has a
> right that SUPERCEDES that of a women are saying women have fewer rights
> than a fetus. It is insane. We allot more rights onto dead bodies than they
> want to grant women.

A child growing inside of a woman is not a dead body. That's pretty
disgusting of you to say. What conservatives are saying is that the
child has a right to be protected and not discarded the way a used
condom is. Also, conservatives want to discourage the use of abortion as
a contraceptive which seems to be happening more frequently because
sexually-active people are becoming increasingly stupid. Doing so
dehumanizes us completely and we're already immoral enough as it is.

> Of course, most of these people have an exception for rape and incest, where
> they rights of the fetus are the EXACT same. This shows it is really more
> about trying to control women.

It is trying to control the immorality of today's society, not the
women. If you don't want children, use a condom or go on the pill. If
you couldn't do that, live with the consequences. I don't see why the
immaturity of these men and women has to be excused with abortions. In
fact, had I gotten a woman pregnant at 20 to 26 (when I was mostly
single), I would have done the honourable thing and been happy to be a
father. I don't see why these irresponsible twats would be any different.

> And if we did not have a conservative media they would speak honestly about
> this instead of accepting the right wing view.

Your opinion is not equal to honesty. You see yourself as some sort of
intensely moral individual who is infallible but that is grossly inaccurate.

-- 
Charmed Tuna

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            Re: Meta: Take your bigotry elsewhere ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 04:24 +0000
        Women need choices, not enslavement. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-02 17:39 -0800
          Re: Women need choices, not enslavement. Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-03 08:56 -0500
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