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Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago

From Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago
Date 2015-10-27 13:43 -0400
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On 2015-10-27 12:50 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 9:57:18 AM UTC-6, Charmed Tuna wrote:
> 
> (snip)
> 
>> I'm one of the few people who can hear the difference between a file
>> compressed at 192kbps and one compressed at 320kbps.
> 
> LOL! No dude, sorry... I've proven this isn't always the case when I pointed to that audio file of me on guitar, which wasn't a recorded audio sound coming *from* the guitar that I played it on.  This was a patch from a Logic plugin that was triggered by one of my Godin's (LGX-SA). 
> 
> You: "The guitar sounds amazing. Is that a 320kbps MP3 encoded with LAME?"
> 
> As the response shows, it was 160kbps. 
> 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.os.linux.advocacy/imu2wrKEgaQ/1eql-TXbT_cJ
> 
> Stephen Paul was the first person I ran across who had what I consider "amazing" sounds from an MP3  (as I point out in the linked post above), and this was over 15 years ago.

Not all digital music files will sound different between 160kbps and
320kbps but it all depends which song you're talking about. In my case,
I can differentiate between an MP3 at 320kbps and a WMA Pro file from
the way guitars sound. Between a 320kbps and 160kbps music file, I will
spot difference in the way the compression handles two or more
instruments playing simultaneously. I've done this often enough to
conclude that WMA Pro is what I want my music encoded to if I absolutely
require compression.

>> As a result, it's
>> very important for me to use the best codec if I am compressing. Right
>> now, it seems to be WMA Pro at 320kbps in VBR. Of course, I much prefer
>> the sound of a FLAC file but the storage required for that is insane.
> 
> It is right now but as storage becomes bigger/less expensive, people will be able to enjoy portable, high quality audio that is much closer to what was intended. 
> 
> Unfortunately, Comcast killed off personal web pages so I no longer can upload to the location that file was previously housed at and I couldn't find a local copy of it so, unless someone made one (or I have it but just haven't found it yet) it's disappeared into the electronosphere.

It doesn't matter. I know what I hear but I believe you. 160kbps and
320kbps is indeed indistinguishable in certain contexts.

-- 
Charmed Tuna

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Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-10-26 05:03 -0700
  Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-26 10:09 -0400
    Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-26 13:33 -0700
    Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-26 16:49 -0500
      Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-26 15:18 -0700
      Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-26 19:03 -0400
        Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-26 21:27 -0500
          Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-27 02:46 +0000
            Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-27 10:57 -0400
          Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-26 20:50 -0700
          Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-27 07:56 -0400
            Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-27 10:49 -0400
              Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-27 11:52 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-27 11:29 -0500
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-27 18:02 +0100
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-27 13:44 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-27 18:59 +0100
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-28 05:11 +0000
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-28 11:23 -0500
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-28 17:15 +0000
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-10-29 19:39 +0000
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-27 13:37 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-28 05:09 +0000
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-28 12:11 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-27 17:38 +0100
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-27 12:54 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-27 18:05 +0100
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-27 13:09 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-27 13:30 -0500
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-27 14:22 -0500
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-27 15:48 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago "Normal Peelman" <norm@gmail.com> - 2015-10-27 23:49 +0100
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-28 10:43 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Anonymous <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> - 2015-10-28 03:17 +0100
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-27 13:15 -0700
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-28 05:00 +0000
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-10-27 22:06 +0000
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-28 04:45 +0000
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-27 10:07 -0700
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-27 13:40 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-27 21:24 +0100
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-27 17:31 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-28 11:04 -0500
            Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-27 11:27 -0500
          Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-27 08:13 -0700
            Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-27 11:58 -0400
              Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-27 11:32 -0500
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-27 13:38 -0400
            Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-27 17:04 +0100
              Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-27 13:34 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-27 18:57 +0100
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-27 13:06 -0500
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-27 17:18 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-27 14:33 -0700
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-27 23:30 +0100
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-27 19:01 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-28 00:20 +0100
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-27 16:57 -0700
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-27 20:06 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-28 14:03 +0100
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-28 09:09 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-28 14:28 +0100
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-10-28 09:36 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-28 11:17 -0500
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-28 18:22 -0600
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-28 10:44 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-28 09:08 -0700
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-28 11:15 -0500
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-28 18:20 -0600
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-29 01:45 +0100
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-28 17:49 -0700
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-10-27 23:55 +0000
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-28 08:34 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-10-29 19:52 +0000
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-28 11:11 -0500
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-28 09:49 -0700
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-28 17:17 +0000
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-28 13:43 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-27 23:45 -0600
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-10-28 08:53 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-28 11:20 -0500
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-28 18:24 -0600
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-28 06:53 -0500
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-28 09:07 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-28 18:25 -0600
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-28 21:24 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-28 11:08 -0500
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-28 17:21 +0000
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-27 11:32 -0700
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-27 23:18 +0100
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-27 16:53 -0700
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-27 11:28 -0700
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-27 21:22 +0100
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-27 14:21 -0700
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-27 17:29 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-27 15:07 -0700
              Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-28 05:03 +0000
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-10-28 11:26 +0000
        Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-27 08:09 -0700
          Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-27 11:57 -0400
            Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-27 09:50 -0700
              Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-10-27 13:05 -0400
              Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-27 13:43 -0400
            Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-27 11:30 -0500
              Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-27 10:20 -0700
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-27 13:45 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-27 13:43 -0500
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-27 12:21 -0700
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-27 14:21 -0500
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-27 15:12 -0500
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-10-27 13:38 -0700
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-28 10:33 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-27 17:22 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-28 11:01 -0500
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-28 11:39 -0500
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-28 11:45 -0500
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-10-28 12:48 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-28 12:12 -0500
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-28 17:55 +0000
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-10-28 14:22 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-28 16:57 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-10-28 17:52 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-28 20:17 -0500
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-29 10:09 +0100
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-29 13:46 +0000
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-29 14:50 +0100
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-10-29 09:54 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-29 13:59 +0000
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-29 15:21 +0100
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-29 14:24 +0000
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-29 10:00 -0500
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-29 15:05 +0000
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-29 11:27 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-10-29 12:02 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-29 11:22 -0500
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-29 15:14 +0000
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-29 15:43 +0000
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-29 12:24 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-29 16:32 +0000
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-10-29 12:33 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-29 13:51 -0500
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-10-29 10:45 -0700
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-10-29 08:32 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-28 20:15 -0500
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-29 08:22 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-10-29 08:31 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-29 08:37 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-10-29 08:40 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-29 09:10 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-10-29 09:19 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-29 10:44 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-10-29 08:26 -0700
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-29 12:26 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-29 09:57 -0500
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-10-29 15:48 +0000
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-29 09:55 -0500
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-10-29 12:00 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-29 11:20 -0500
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-29 12:15 -0500
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-28 17:14 +0000
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-28 12:10 -0500
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-28 18:27 -0600
              Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-27 13:37 -0400
                Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-27 13:59 -0400
      Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-27 07:00 -0500
        Re: Comments from iPod announcement 14 years ago DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-27 08:55 -0400

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