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Re: Everyone Uses the Condom - Girls also use Implanon or NexplanonT - Boys also use the pull-out method.

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On 10/20/2015 3:47 PM, Tom Mr. wrote:
> On 10/20/2015 1:02 PM, Safe Sex is Good wrote:
>> On 10/20/2015 2:50 AM, Pregnancy Prevention wrote:
>>> On 10/20/2015 2:46 AM, Pregnancy Prevention wrote:
>>>> Girls use Implanon or NexplanonT and the condom.
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etonogestrel_contraceptive_implant
>>>>
>>>> Boys use the condom and the pull-out method.
>>>
>>> I mean together.  Use them together.
>>
>>
>> If you always carry 3 condoms you'll always be ready for sex.
>
>
>
> Indeed!  Everyone should use both.  The risk with just Implanon is 1 in
> 2000, the risk with Implanon and Condoms is 1/2,000 x 1/6 (condom
> typical use) x 1/100 (100 sex acts per year double counted) = 1 in
> 1,200,000.
>
> They give DUIs to lower the risk of dying in a car accident to less than
> 1 in 2,000.  Maybe you think a pregnancy is not death but it's kind of
> getting close.
>
> For boys: 1/6(condoms) x 1/4(pull-out) x 1/100(sex acts double counted)
> = 1 in 2,400.  In perfect use: 1/50(condom perfect) x 1/25(pull-out
> perfect) x 1/100 (sex acts per year double counted)= 1/125,000.
>
>  From 1 in 2,400 to 1 in 125,000 might be safe enough to use if there's
> not a better option.  As the risk of dying in a car accident is about 1
> in 10,000*.  However they are always trying to find ways to lower that
> risk and save the 30,000 which die.  If in a repeated and pre-meditated
> relationship, one can advise their partner to use hormonal or the sponge
> or diaphragm in addition.
>
> Contraceptive rates from the CDC:
> www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/unintendedpregnancy/pdf/contraceptive_methods_508.pdf
>
> http://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/unintendedpregnancy/pdf/contraceptive_methods_508.pdf



That's a good chart.  This table from the Association of Reproductive 
Health Professionals is also helpful, as it shows a precise breakdown of 
the risk of using contraceptives in both typical and perfect use.

https://www.arhp.org/Publications-and-Resources/Quick-Reference-Guide-for-Clinicians/choosing/failure-rates-table

As an example it shows spermicide in typical use, percent of women out 
of 100% pregnant in one year, 28% in typical use, and 18% in perfect 
use.  Divide 100% by 28%, and 18%, and see the risk is 1 in 3.57 women 
in typical use, and 1 in 5.55 women in perfect use will get pregnant in 
a year with just spermicide.

For the withdrawal method it shows 22% in typical use and 4% in perfect 
use.  Divide 100% by 22% and 4%, and see the risk is 1 in 4.54 women in 
typical use, and 1 in 25 women in perfect use will get pregnant in a 
year with just withdrawal.

An individual's risk must fall somewhere in between those two, depending 
on how likely they are to be among those who fail to use the birth 
control perfectly, and end up increasing the statistic for typical use.

I find it interesting that people sometimes advocate the use of 
spermicide with condoms (or the diaphragm), but more rarely advocate 
withdrawal as a 2nd method concurrently.  They should.  The withdrawal 
method is more effective than spermicide according to the chart; and 
like spermicide, when combined with another type of birth control, the 
chance of both failing at the same time make its use even more 
important.  Though the responsibility and control over this method 
remain in the hands of the man - who should take as much responsibility 
for birth control as the woman, it's an important method for males. 
Though the woman should take her own responsibility and not expect or 
rely on the male if not engaging in repeated activities with a known and 
trusted partner.


>
> *1 in 10,000 is of course less than 1 in 2,000.

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Everyone Uses the Condom - Girls also use Implanon or NexplanonT - Boys also use the pull-out method. Pregnancy Prevention <SafeSex@pregnancyprevention.com> - 2015-10-20 02:46 -0700
  Re: Everyone Uses the Condom - Girls also use Implanon or NexplanonT - Boys also use the pull-out method. Pregnancy Prevention <SafeSex@pregnancyprevention.com> - 2015-10-20 02:50 -0700
    Re: Everyone Uses the Condom - Girls also use Implanon or NexplanonT - Boys also use the pull-out method. Safe Sex is Good <nopreg@advice11.com> - 2015-10-20 13:02 -0700
      Re: Everyone Uses the Condom - Girls also use Implanon or NexplanonT - Boys also use the pull-out method. "Tom Mr." <TomRR@Rolls.com> - 2015-10-20 15:47 -0700
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