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Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage

From "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com>
Newsgroups alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus, alt.os.linux.ubuntu, comp.sys.laptops
Subject Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage
Date 2015-10-20 11:17 -0700
Organization albasani.net
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"DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno" <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> wrote in message 
news:jfqc2bt4q2nlbff4bng9a1l2bopcgqu330@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 20 Oct 2015 07:50:22 -0700, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> Gave us:
>
>>
>>"DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno" <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> wrote in message
>>news:h0l42b9lagljk7affel3lvbcjk4pbjt7ic@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 09:48:17 -0400, Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> Gave
>>> us:
>>>
>>> snip
>>>
>>>  This one is 135 Watts.  Would (may) only need an output plug
>>> changeout.
>>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B012HW5A9O
>>>
>>>  And no, the wattage does not have to match the original.  More is
>>> better.  It is just a declaration of what the supply is able to provide.
>>> Your device still uses only what it uses.  It merely has a better
>>> likelihood of providing a cleaner DC feed, and exhibiting less heat
>>> while doing so.
>>
>>ASUS representative said...
>>
>>"A higher wattage AC adapter can cause damage to battery overtime.
>>Thus, it is not recommended."
>>
>>Is this true?
>>
>  No.  A battery is charged by voltage.  It requires a voltage greater
> than the battery's operating voltage.  That is usually managed by a
> watchdog chip/circuit.  They operate from within a specific input
> voltage range and ONLY feed the battery the voltage it needs.  And they
> stop the charging cycle when they are through.  You'll notice this same
> behavior on your smart phone and some laptops when they say "not
> charging" even though you attached an external source.
>
>  An adaptor that can put out 65W does so comfortably and without
> exhibiting heat or feeding a noisy rail (ripple).  That means if they
> get fully loaded to the 65W rating, they are supposed to work at that
> level 24/7/365, as in "full duty cycle".  A higher power, same voltage
> supply does the same thing and at it rated power when loaded to that
> level.  If you hook it up to a lesser load, it will pull less and run
> cooler and exhibit less ripple.
>
>  So essentially he couldn't be more wrong if he tried.
>
>  It is incorrect to attach a higher voltage supply, but NOT incorrect
> to attach a higher wattage supply.  The wattage rating declares the work
> which it is capable of doing..  It does not "feed more" if the load has
> not changed, and it has not.  The device acts no differently simply
> because a more capable, quieter running power unit got attached.
> As long as the voltage matches, the device will draw no more power than
> it did on the other power supply device.
>
>  I can not explain it more concisely, because that covers it
> completely.
>
>  You can tell him I said he is wrong, and needs to go back to bullshit
> salesman school.


Thanks (NumeroUno), that makes sense.  So, if I stick with
a 19V AC adapter that is 90+W, I should be fine.

Just FYI, the following items...

90 Watt AC Adapter (New Design) 0A001-00051000
http://us.estore.asus.com/products/0a001-00051000

6-Cell Battery 07G016HJ1875
http://us.estore.asus.com/products/07g016hj1875

were suggested to me by ASUS.


This is OT but anyone know how to find a dental hygienist,
with whom you've lost touch (because
the "new" owner wants that relationship severed)?

The previous owner retired.
[Alan L. Grimm, DDS, Milpitas, CA]
And, I don't know her last name.

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cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-15 11:33 -0700
  Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2015-10-15 11:40 -0700
    Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-15 11:56 -0700
      Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-15 12:21 -0700
        Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 15:29 -0400
          Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-15 12:36 -0700
  Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> - 2015-10-15 14:41 -0500
    Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-15 12:56 -0700
      Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 16:08 -0400
        Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-15 13:42 -0700
      Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-15 13:21 -0700
  Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-16 08:11 -0400
    Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-16 20:13 -0700
      Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-16 21:05 -0700
        Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-17 01:07 -0400
      Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-17 01:00 -0400
        Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-16 23:03 -0700
          Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-17 08:19 -0400
            Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-17 12:04 -0700
              Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2015-10-18 02:56 +0000
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-17 23:22 -0400
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2015-10-18 03:40 +0000
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-17 23:50 -0400
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2015-10-18 03:59 +0000
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-18 11:14 -0400
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-18 11:17 -0400
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage Godzilla <godzilla@lizardboss.invalid> - 2015-10-18 15:24 +0000
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-18 17:06 -0400
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage Godzilla <godzilla@lizardboss.invalid> - 2015-10-18 22:22 +0000
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-18 11:18 -0400
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2015-10-18 21:01 +0000
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-18 17:10 -0400
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-18 13:58 -0700
      Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-17 01:03 -0400
      Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2015-10-17 09:48 -0400
        Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-17 10:01 -0400
          Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-20 07:50 -0700
            Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage Charlie Hoffpauir <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-10-20 10:49 -0500
            Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-20 12:21 -0400
              Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-20 11:17 -0700
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-20 14:33 -0400
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-20 11:54 -0700
              Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-10-20 12:54 -0700
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-20 16:00 -0400
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-20 16:01 -0400
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-20 16:03 -0400
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-10-20 14:32 -0700
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-20 19:51 -0400
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-20 16:04 -0400
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2015-10-20 19:29 -0400
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-20 20:03 -0400
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-10-21 00:10 -0700
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2015-10-21 03:31 -0400
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-21 08:40 -0400
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-21 14:22 -0700
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2015-10-21 18:32 -0400
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-21 18:43 -0700
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-21 08:30 -0400
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-21 08:30 -0400
        Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-17 09:07 -0700
          Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2015-10-17 10:22 -0700
            Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-17 11:39 -0700
              Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2015-10-17 12:21 -0700
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-17 12:36 -0700
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2015-10-17 20:43 -0500
  Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2015-10-16 09:23 -0400
    Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-16 09:37 -0700
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        Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2015-10-16 10:19 -0700
        Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2015-10-16 14:47 -0500
          Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2015-10-16 23:18 +0000
            Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-16 20:17 -0400
              Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2015-10-18 02:29 +0000
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-17 23:07 -0400
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2015-10-18 03:42 +0000
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-17 23:52 -0400
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2015-10-18 04:02 +0000
            Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-16 20:18 -0400
              Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2015-10-18 02:32 +0000
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-17 23:09 -0400
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-17 23:11 -0400
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2015-10-18 03:53 +0000
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-17 23:56 -0400
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2015-10-18 04:06 +0000
                Re: cannot power "on" ASUS laptop after power outage DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-10-18 00:58 -0400
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