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Re: Moon Farmers

From Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: Moon Farmers
Date 2015-10-19 15:09 -0400
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JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> writes:

> On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 11:26:06 -0400, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>>JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 10:58:18 -0400, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sunday, October 18, 2015 at 9:20:06 AM UTC-6, Peter Flass wrote:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> I did too.  I'm very disappointed.  Has anyone analyzed moon rock and soil
>>>>>>> to see what it lacks to be able to grow crops (other than water)?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I remember that some lunar material was tested through an attempt to grow plants 
>>>>>> in it, and they did very well. This was a news report shortly after the Apollo 11 
>>>>>> astronauts returned to Earth, I believe.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> John Savard
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I see the ESA is going in with the Russians to build a manned Moon base
>>>>> by 2030.  Bye-bye US lead in space.
>>>>
>>>>Pointless competition.
>>>>
>>>>Besides that, given the formula:
>>>>
>>>>ESA + Russia > USA
>>>>
>>>>I say, so what?  Are we now expecting Europe to launch missiles at us?
>>>>
>>>>As far as the moon, we've been there, there is nothing there worth going
>>>>back to.  We've also been to Mars (with robots), and there's nothing there either.
>>>>
>>>>It's a time for astronomy and some targeted interstellar launches.
>>>>Yes, I know interstellar surveys take 1000s of years.  So what.
>>>
>>> So, some of your ancestors told Columbus to not waste his time ?
>>
>>No, some of my ancestors came over after Columbus found out this was a
>>good place to live.
>>
>>How could you have missed the distinction.
>>I clearly said, "nothing there worth going back to".
>
> I'm disagreeing. Its easier to launch from the moon athan Earth.
> Smaller gravity well.

I guess it's farther back in the conversation that you're disagreeing
with.  Unless you think there's a valid analogy comparing Columbus
discovering  the Americas, and living on the moon.

Yes, the moon has a smaller gravity well.
Unless the stuff you launch originates on the moon,  you first launch
from the Earth, then you launch again from the moon.  Use the ISS and
you don't need to go to the moon or escape the moons gravity.

-- 
Dan Espen

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Moon Farmers scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-16 15:29 +0000
  Re: Moon Farmers jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-17 13:22 +0000
    Re: Moon Farmers "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-18 05:06 +1100
      Re: Moon Farmers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-18 11:20 -0400
        Re: Moon Farmers Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-18 11:48 -0500
          Re: Moon Farmers Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-18 19:08 +0000
  Re: Moon Farmers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-17 12:23 -0700
    Re: Moon Farmers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-18 11:20 -0400
      Re: Moon Farmers Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-18 17:38 +0100
        Re: Moon Farmers Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-18 13:20 -0400
      Re: Moon Farmers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-18 11:53 -0700
        Re: Moon Farmers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-19 07:12 -0400
          Re: Moon Farmers Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-10-19 09:37 -0400
          Re: Moon Farmers Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-10-19 09:42 -0400
            Re: Moon Farmers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-19 11:54 -0400
              Re: Moon Farmers "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-10-20 10:12 +1100
          Re: Moon Farmers David Jones <djones60@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 07:47 -0700
          Re: Moon Farmers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-19 10:58 -0400
            Re: Moon Farmers JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 10:10 -0500
              Re: Moon Farmers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-19 11:26 -0400
                Re: Moon Farmers JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 13:52 -0500
                Re: Moon Farmers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-19 15:09 -0400
                Re: Moon Farmers JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 14:53 -0500
                Re: Moon Farmers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-19 16:06 -0400
                Re: Moon Farmers JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 18:46 -0500
                Re: Moon Farmers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-19 16:54 -0700
                Re: Moon Farmers JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 21:02 -0500
                Re: Moon Farmers Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-20 11:25 -0500
                Re: Moon Farmers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-20 07:25 -0400
                Re: Moon Farmers Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-20 10:32 -0500
                Re: Moon Farmers JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-20 11:55 -0500
                Re: Moon Farmers scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-20 17:01 +0000
                Re: Moon Farmers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-20 10:23 -0700
                Re: Moon Farmers Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-20 13:25 -0500
                Re: Moon Farmers scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-20 19:43 +0000
                Re: Moon Farmers Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-20 16:51 -0500
                Re: Moon Farmers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-21 03:08 -0700
                Re: Moon Farmers JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-21 09:54 -0500
                Re: Moon Farmers Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-19 20:14 +0100
              Re: Moon Farmers Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-19 11:40 -0400
                Re: Moon Farmers JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 13:53 -0500
                Re: Moon Farmers "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-10-20 10:11 +1100
            Re: Moon Farmers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-19 11:54 -0400
              Re: Moon Farmers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-19 12:07 -0400
                Re: Moon Farmers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-19 12:41 -0700
              Re: Moon Farmers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-19 12:35 -0700
            Re: Moon Farmers scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-19 16:08 +0000
              Re: Moon Farmers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-19 13:22 -0400
                Re: Moon Farmers Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-19 18:53 +0100
                Re: Moon Farmers scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-19 18:54 +0000
                Re: Moon Farmers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-19 15:20 -0400
                Re: Moon Farmers JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 14:54 -0500
                Re: Moon Farmers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-19 16:07 -0400
                Re: Moon Farmers Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-19 21:14 +0100
                Re: Moon Farmers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-19 17:51 -0400
                Re: Moon Farmers Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-20 09:35 +0100
                Re: Moon Farmers Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-19 20:22 +0100
            Re: Moon Farmers Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-10-19 15:40 -0400
              Re: Moon Farmers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-19 12:43 -0700
                Re: Moon Farmers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-19 15:59 -0400
                Re: Moon Farmers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-20 07:25 -0400
                Re: Moon Farmers Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-20 12:13 +0000
                Re: Moon Farmers Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-20 18:04 +0000
                Re: Moon Farmers Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-21 14:21 -0400
                Re: Moon Farmers scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-21 19:52 +0000
                Re: Moon Farmers Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-21 15:13 -0500
                Re: Moon Farmers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-21 17:19 -0700
                Re: Moon Farmers Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-22 10:03 +0100
                Re: Moon Farmers Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-22 11:53 -0400
                Re: Moon Farmers Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-23 06:29 +0100
                Re: Moon Farmers scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-22 17:46 +0000
                Re: Moon Farmers Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-23 05:57 -0400
                Re: Moon Farmers Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-22 09:39 -0700
                Re: Moon Farmers scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-22 17:48 +0000
                Re: Moon Farmers Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-22 17:45 -0700
                Re: Moon Farmers "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-10-23 05:57 +1100
                Re: Moon Farmers Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-22 17:56 -0700
                Re: Moon Farmers "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-10-23 13:10 +1100
                Re: Moon Farmers Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-22 23:32 -0400
                Re: Moon Farmers Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-21 20:07 +0000
                Re: Moon Farmers scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-22 17:50 +0000
                Re: Moon Farmers Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-20 14:10 +0100
                Re: Moon Farmers scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-20 15:42 +0000
                Re: Moon Farmers Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-20 19:07 +0100
                Re: Moon Farmers Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-20 21:20 -0500
              Re: Moon Farmers Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-19 15:56 -0400
                Re: Moon Farmers JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 18:43 -0500
            Re: Moon Farmers Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-10-19 18:00 -0400
          Re: Moon Farmers "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-10-20 10:08 +1100
      Re: Moon Farmers Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-18 19:10 +0000
      Re: Moon Farmers "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-10-19 15:30 +1100
      Re: Moon Farmers scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-19 13:15 +0000
    Re: Moon Farmers Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-18 13:25 -0400

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