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| From | Paulo Marques <pmarques@grupopie.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.crypt |
| Subject | Re: Entropy Estimations for die and pass phrases |
| Date | 2015-10-19 15:24 +0100 |
| Organization | Aioe.org NNTP Server |
| Message-ID | <n02ue2$68e$1@speranza.aioe.org> (permalink) |
| References | <op.x6oirrzqwei6gd@phenom-pc> <n012j8$2mto$1@adenine.netfront.net> |
On 18-10-2015 22:22, Karl-Uwe Frank wrote: > On 18.10.15 04:05, David Eather wrote: >> Just a short table of entropy estimates (Shannon entropy for the purest >> hair splitters) >> >> 6 sided dice 2.58 bits per throw >> 8 sided dice 3.99 bits per throw >> 10 dided dice 3.32 bits per throw >> > How about using a 16 side hex dice and drawing a 128 bit result as > keyword? This way one can use the full range of all 256 chars of the > ASCII set. > > https://mccormick.cx/news/entries/3d-printable-sixteen-sided-hexadecimal-die This "die" looks awful! It doesn't seem to try to give the same probabilities for every symbol at all. > https://www.thediceshoponline.com/dice/4411/Hexidice-D16-Hexadecimal-Dice This one seems much, much better. -- Paulo Marques - www.grupopie.com "You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me."
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Entropy Estimations for die and pass phrases "David Eather" <eather@tpg.com.au> - 2015-10-18 12:05 +1000
Re: Entropy Estimations for die and pass phrases Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-18 00:14 -0500
Re: Entropy Estimations for die and pass phrases "David Eather" <eather@tpg.com.au> - 2015-10-18 16:40 +1000
Re: Entropy Estimations for die and pass phrases "David Eather" <eather@tpg.com.au> - 2015-10-18 16:41 +1000
Re: Entropy Estimations for die and pass phrases Karl-Uwe Frank <karl.frank@freecx.co.uk> - 2015-10-18 23:22 +0200
Re: Entropy Estimations for die and pass phrases Paulo Marques <pmarques@grupopie.com> - 2015-10-19 15:24 +0100
Re: Entropy Estimations for die and pass phrases Jeffrey Goldberg <nobody@goldmark.org> - 2015-10-19 00:17 -0500
Re: Entropy Estimations for die and pass phrases rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-10-19 12:00 +0000
Re: Entropy Estimations for die and pass phrases Jeffrey Goldberg <nobody@goldmark.org> - 2015-10-19 14:52 -0500
Re: Entropy Estimations for die and pass phrases David Malone <dwmalone@walton.maths.tcd.ie> - 2015-10-20 08:00 +0000
Re: Entropy Estimations for die and pass phrases Jeffrey Goldberg <nobody@goldmark.org> - 2015-10-20 12:32 -0500
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