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Re: rPi and USB 3.1 w/ type C connector

From rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.raspberry-pi
Subject Re: rPi and USB 3.1 w/ type C connector
Date 2015-10-06 22:40 -0400
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On 10/6/2015 4:04 PM, Jonathan Lane wrote:
> Dom <domafp@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 06/10/15 16:02, rickman wrote:
>> Not going to happen. At least for quite some time. It would need a
>> completely new SoC design, rather than the minor redesign that was made
>> for the Pi 2.
> It would also need significantly more expensive silicon.  8xUSB3 changes
> the equation from "$25 SBC" to "something with PCIe-bus equivalent
> bandwidth for peripherals".  I'd just be happy with a redesign that
> moved the ethernet PHY and the storage devices off the USB hub.

I don't follow this.  If every part of the I/O were inside the SoC, why 
would that be more expensive?  Don't you think the internal busses of a 
700 MHz processor can keep up with a 5 Gbps serial bus?  32 * 700 MHz is 
22.4 GHz.  Regardless, only the video has to run at particularly high 
rates.  The rest of the peripherals are relatively low average rates 
with high burst rates.  An SoC is only limited by it's memory band 
width.  Why would the SoC be any more expensive?

-- 

Rick

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rPi and USB 3.1 w/ type C connector rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-10-06 11:02 -0400
  Re: rPi and USB 3.1 w/ type C connector Dom <domafp@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2015-10-06 18:02 +0100
    Re: rPi and USB 3.1 w/ type C connector Jonathan Lane <tidux@faeroes.freeshell.org> - 2015-10-06 20:04 +0000
      Re: rPi and USB 3.1 w/ type C connector rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-10-06 22:40 -0400
        Re: rPi and USB 3.1 w/ type C connector Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2015-10-07 11:11 +0100
          Re: rPi and USB 3.1 w/ type C connector rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-10-07 11:47 -0400
            Re: rPi and USB 3.1 w/ type C connector Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2015-10-07 19:06 +0100
              Re: rPi and USB 3.1 w/ type C connector rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-10-07 15:35 -0400
                Re: rPi and USB 3.1 w/ type C connector fruit <fruit@invalid.org.uk> - 2015-10-07 21:42 +0100
                Re: rPi and USB 3.1 w/ type C connector rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-10-07 17:27 -0400
                Re: rPi and USB 3.1 w/ type C connector fruit <fruit@invalid.org.uk> - 2015-10-08 07:36 +0100
                Re: rPi and USB 3.1 w/ type C connector Gordon Henderson <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> - 2015-10-08 09:34 +0000
                Re: rPi and USB 3.1 w/ type C connector Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> - 2015-10-08 19:26 +0100
                Re: rPi and USB 3.1 w/ type C connector rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 18:40 -0400
                Re: rPi and USB 3.1 w/ type C connector Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2015-10-11 20:28 +0300
                Re: rPi and USB 3.1 w/ type C connector "A. Dumas" <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> - 2015-10-11 20:48 +0200
    Re: rPi and USB 3.1 w/ type C connector rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-10-06 22:47 -0400
  Re: rPi and USB 3.1 w/ type C connector julianmkizner@gmail.com - 2016-11-02 18:08 -0700
    Re: rPi and USB 3.1 w/ type C connector "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2016-11-05 13:01 +0000

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