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| From | Rhino <no_offline_contact_please@example.com> |
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| Newsgroups | rec.arts.sf.written, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity, rec.arts.tv |
| Subject | Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics |
| Date | 2015-09-20 17:17 -0400 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <mtn7l3$61a$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On 2015-09-20 3:54 PM, J. Clarke wrote: > In article <mtn09i$84s$1@dont-email.me>, > no_offline_contact_please@example.com says... >> >> On 2015-09-19 6:59 PM, J. Clarke wrote: >>> In article <mtklqb$ucr$1@dont-email.me>, >>> no_offline_contact_please@example.com says... >>>> >>>> On 2015-09-19 5:43 PM, J. Clarke wrote: >>>>> In article <qvjLx.16451$sa4.10466@fx09.iad>, none@gmail.com says... >>>>>> >>>>>> On 09/19/2015 02:57 PM, Charles H. Sampson wrote: >>>>>>> J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In article <1maz02q.bglsl6byw589N%csampson@inetworld.net>, >>>>>>>> csampson@inetworld.net says... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 2015-09-18 18:53:35 +0000, benj <nobody@gmail.com> said: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You said it Starmaker. Hey censorship of political speech as well as >>>>>>>>>>> political prisoners is the traditional way of all Banana Republics, of >>>>>>>>>>> which we have obviously become one. As I understand it, the favored >>>>>>>>>>> method is dropping deniers out Helicopters >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You DO realize that being ASKED to do something isn't the same as >>>>>>>>>> actually DOING it, right? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Has anybody actually looked at the two-page petition (one-page plus >>>>>>>>> signatures) cited by the OP? It doesn't ask Obama to prosecute anybody. >>>>>>>>> It is a petition in support of an action proposed by a Senator: to >>>>>>>>> conduct a RICO investigation of groups denying climate change to see if >>>>>>>>> they are obfuscating established science for their profit and to the >>>>>>>>> detriment of people in general. as the tobacco companies did. If the >>>>>>>>> investigation concludes that that's what they're doing, prosecution can >>>>>>>>> follow. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If there's no intent to prosecute then why investigate? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They obviously intend to prosecute if the investigation turns up useful >>>>>>> evidence of wrongdoing. Otherwise, as you say, why prosecute? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> RICO is a witch-hunting tool. Once the investigation starts they're >>>>>>>> going to find a witch whether there is one or not. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A pretty cynical assessment. RICO was enacted as a tool against >>>>>>> organized crime. It was subsequently discovered that it could be used in >>>>>>> other areas. Such uses have withstood the test of time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Charlie >>>>>> >>>>>> Cynical? What I call cynical is your assessment that using a law passed >>>>>> to fight organized crime to attack corporations selling a legal >>>>>> federally regulated product like tobacco or guns to further some leftist >>>>>> Lib agenda isn't a witch-hunt and abuse of power. The fact that you >>>>>> commies have managed to "get away" with your "we know what is best for >>>>>> you" agenda in no way changes how dishonest it is. >>>>> >>>>> You know that calling them "commies" is an insult to commies don't you? >>>>> Talk to some people who grew up under Communism (half the people I work >>>>> with did) and you'll find that oppressive as it was, it didn't have the >>>>> kind of individualized micromanagment that the US seems to be bent on >>>>> implementing (they micromanaged themselves to destruction, but it was >>>>> micromanagement on a grand scale, not the "mow your lawn or we'll throw >>>>> you in jail" kind that is becoming popular in the US). We think we're >>>>> "better" than they were because we don't shoot dissidents (we apparently >>>>> reserve that for unarmed teenagers). But we have a higher percentage of >>>>> our population locked up than the Soviets or the Chinese ever managed >>>>> and nobody seems to see anything wrong with that except the people who >>>>> are locked up. >>>>> >>>> Have you read Solzhenitsyn's The Gulag Archipelago? He states clearly that >>>> only 1 in 7 of the people who were sent to the gulag survived their >>>> sentences. >>>> In another book, Under the Rubble, written with a fellow political >>>> prisoner named Igor Shafarevich, he writes that he is absolutely CERTAIN >>>> 20 million people were sent to the Gulag and thinks it may well have >>>> been as many as 120 million people. If you then apply the 6-in-7 death >>>> rate, then AT LEAST 17 million people died there and as many as 102 >>>> million people. >>>> >>>> Do you *seriously* mean to tell me that the US has more than 20 million >>>> people locked up, let alone 120 million? If so, you are in serious need >>>> of some reading time to bone up on your facts. >>> >>> So 120 million people were sent to the Gulag? Quite a trick when the >>> entire population in 1950 was 180 million. >>> >> They didn't all get sent to the Gulag in the same year. Lenin and Stalin >> sent people to the Gulag from 1918 through 1953, which is 35 years. >> Also, as I said, 120 million was the highest number that Shafarevich, >> who was a mathematician, thought plausible. He didn't declare >> categorically that 120 million HAD gone to the Gulag, only that it MIGHT >> HAVE BEEN that many. > > OK, if 120 million went to the Gulag and only 1/7 of them came back that > means that 102 million didn't come back. Your numbers still dont' work. > As to "might", 10 billion _might_ have gone to the Gulag. We're pretty > sure it didn't happen since there aren't that many people on the entire > planet, but it _might_ have happened. > You still don't get the concept of "might". Either you are extremely obtuse or you are conjuring up a straw man. Nobody said ANYTHING about 10 billion, which is impossible anyway since the entire population of the earth has never been 10 billion people. > Don't rely on guesses by people who had a political axe to grind when > there are better numbers available. > Has it occurred to you that YOU might be relying on the guess of someone with a political axe to grind when you assert that the US has imprisoned far more people than the Soviet Union or China? >>> I admit I'm engaging in a bit of hyperbole here--the current US figure >>> is about half the peak Soviet figure. But it's still on the order of 10 >>> times what any other civilized nation has locked up. >>> >> As I understand, the US has about 2 million people in prison. > > The Bureau of Justice Statistics, a Federal agency charged with keeping > track of such matters, states that "An estimated 6,899,000 persons were > under the supervision of adult correctional systems at yearend 2013". > >>> Note that the Soviet Union has fallen and the people who made it fall >>> have gone through the records and released the numbers. >>> >> The numbers remain disputed. There are the "big numbers" historians like >> Rummel >> who cite very large numbers indeed and there are the "small numbers" >> historians like Conquest. > > So from what source do they "cite" those numbers? > You should find all the cites you could ever want via this link, which reports on several different estimates: http://necrometrics.com/20c5m.htm#Stalin Note that this link only covers those who died under Stalin and does NOT count the Russian Civil War (Stalin was in the Politburo at the time but Lenin was in charge) or World War II. The Russian Civil War and WW II are in separate sections of the same page so you'll need to scroll a bit to find those numbers. > If the citation is from a source other than the official records of the > Soviet government then they are at this point questionable. > So the only reliable source is a regime that constituted some of the biggest liars in history? How ironic.... During Stalin's collectivization campaign, life expectancy in the regions worst hit by this entirely man-made catastrophe was as low as 11 years. (In other words, the life expectancy of a newborn in that region was 11 years.) This was clearly going to make the regime look bad so they reported a number in the 60s. The Germans, by all accounts, were notoriously meticulous in their record-keeping. I have never heard any kind of declaration that the Soviets were anywhere near as meticulous. It may well be that they simply "misplaced" a whole lot of people and therefore under-reported the numbers. I've read of incidents where they'd put hundreds of prisoners on a boat, send them down a river, then sink the boat deliberately with all hands. I have no great confidence that such atrocities were recorded in the official records. >> There's one other crucial difference between the Soviet experience and >> the American one: the vast majority of people in the Gulags were not >> guilty of anything that any reasonable person would call a crime. > > Obviously people who thought they were reasonable thought they were > guilty of something. Whether we accept their reasoning is another > story. > Stalin was an intensely paranoid individual. He had a 500 man security detail for himself alone. He refused to allow any draperies or tapestries that went all the way to the floor: he feared assassins hiding behind them so he had all such draperies cut so they wouldn't reach the floor so he and his security team could see a potential assassin's feet. He once confided to Beria, the last of his secret police chiefs that he (Stalin) was worried that he (Stalin) was plotting against HIMSELF. How on earth does that level of paranoia justify putting innocent people in the Gulag? Do you really think we should give him and his minions a pass on the moral aspect of what they did because Stalin was SINCERELY paranoid? >> The >> vast majority of people in the US prison system are actually guilty of >> serious crimes like murder, rape, etc. > > Less than half the people in prison are charged with violent crimes. > >> Some examples of Soviet citizens who went to the Gulag that are etched >> in my brain from reading Solzhenitsyn and Conquest: >> >> - A man had to move a heavy bust of Stalin from one spot in a large >> building to another spot in the same building. There was no one to help >> him and no lifting equipment. He could barely move the bust but >> eventually determined that if he fashioned a sling from his belt and >> looped it around the bust, he could put it over his back and get it to >> where it needed to go. While he was moving the bust, someone came in and >> saw him at work. They noticed that the belt went around the bust's neck >> and since the bust was Stalin, they drew the "obvious" conclusion that >> the man was symbolically hanging Stalin and was guilty of >> "counter-revolutionary activity". The secret police were called and the >> man was sent to the Gulag. I don't recall the length of the sentence but >> for several years, the typical sentence for counter-revolutionary >> activity was 8 years. Later in Stalin's reign of terror, it grew to 25 >> years. >> >> - A tailor in a shop was sewing a garment. He had some pins in his >> mouth, as tailors often do. Someone came into the shop and he realized >> that he would need to talk to them so he took the pins out of his mouth >> and had to park them somewhere until he could deal with the visitor. He >> stuck them into a newspaper. The caller noticed that, when the newspaper >> was turned over, there was a picture of the Politburo and that the pins >> were going into that picture from the opposite side. Clearly, an implied >> death threat (by voodoo?) against the top leaders of the country and >> this man too went to the Gulag for counter-revolutionary activity. >> >> - A farmer who had relatives who had emigrated to the United States >> several years before Lenin seized power still kept in touch with them >> via occasional letters. They would share information on their respective >> lives. On one occasion, the Soviet farmer asked about grain prices and >> the reply he got revealed that US farmers got far more than Soviet >> farmers for their grain. He mentioned the US prices in conversation to >> some neighbours and got arrested for "counter-revolutionary agitation"; >> he also got a stretch in the Gulag. > > Well, nolw, the thing all of these have in common is that somebody did > something that the government determined was unlawful--in other words > they, in contradiction of your argument, did in fact commit crimes. > They may have been unintentional but that is beside the point. > >> - You didn't actually have to do ANYTHING - even something as trivial as >> I've described in my other examples - to find yourself sentenced to the >> Gulag. It was also a crime under the criminal code to be RELATED to a >> criminal. If you were a parent, child, grandparent, first cousin, or >> in-law of someone who'd been sent to the Gulag, you too could be sent to >> the Gulag. (If you were a child who was not charged under this provision >> and all the adults in the family were sent to the Gulag, you'd be sent >> to an orphanage. Soviet orphanages were notoriously brutal.) We don't >> even have the concept of doing something like this in our Western legal >> systems. We wouldn't even conceive of locking up parents, children, >> in-laws, etc. of notorious criminals like Charles Manson, Jeffrey >> Dahmer, David Berkowitz, etc. etc. unless they too had participated in >> the crimes. > > No, we have the concept, in RICO, of being jailed for TALKING to a > criminal. > Let's have some numbers: how many people are in jail ONLY for talking to a criminal, as opposed to talking to him and THEN doing something culpable? Two? Three? Ten billion? >> Stating that the US is WORSE than the Soviet Union or China is a truly >> preposterous lie. > > It's bad in a different way. Unfortunately, people like you aren't > goign to see it until you get jailed for some trivial offense or your > kid gets killed for being the wrong color at the wrong time. > Or daring to dispute any aspect of Global Warming (or whatever it is called this week)? And please don't imply that the numbers of people who are killed "for being the wrong colour at the wrong time" is more than a tiny, tiny number at worst. Not that any unwarranted death is every morally acceptable - it isn't - but let's not try to imply that thousands or even millions of blacks or Hispanics are being shot down in the streets every day. > Communism is dead. It's _not_ the enemy. Creeping statism is, and > always was the enemy. > Communism is just one flavour of statism. Communism is not dead either; try denouncing communism in China and I think you'll be in for a rude surprise. -- Rhino
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Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 14:53 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 15:33 -0400
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Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 18:03 -0400
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Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 04:06 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 23:04 -0400
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Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 04:08 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-19 13:22 -0700
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Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-21 14:03 -0700
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Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> - 2015-09-20 11:31 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-20 18:50 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-09-20 20:49 +0000
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Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-23 16:20 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-20 18:46 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-09-20 20:53 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-20 21:31 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 19:08 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-20 23:17 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-09-20 23:36 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-09-20 23:34 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-21 00:00 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-09-21 00:06 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-21 02:16 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-09-21 02:42 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-21 04:57 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-09-21 05:23 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-21 06:13 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-09-21 13:18 +0000
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-21 14:49 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 18:24 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-19 06:14 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics puppetsock <puppet_sock@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-23 07:44 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2015-09-19 00:46 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 04:09 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2015-09-19 11:57 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 16:23 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 17:43 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Rhino <no_offline_contact_please@example.com> - 2015-09-19 18:00 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 18:59 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Rhino <no_offline_contact_please@example.com> - 2015-09-20 15:11 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-20 15:24 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 18:44 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-20 18:40 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 19:18 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 15:54 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Rhino <no_offline_contact_please@example.com> - 2015-09-20 17:17 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 19:05 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-09-20 20:30 -0600
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-21 14:33 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-21 19:43 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-22 10:28 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-22 18:48 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-22 15:41 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-09-20 16:03 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Rhino <no_offline_contact_please@example.com> - 2015-09-20 17:22 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 18:51 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 00:29 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-19 23:17 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2015-09-19 23:19 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-19 23:57 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-20 12:03 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-21 13:51 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-20 00:01 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-20 00:06 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> - 2015-09-20 08:24 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2015-09-20 08:29 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 12:04 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-09-20 16:00 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 07:42 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-09-20 15:57 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 18:48 -0400
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-20 23:27 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-20 23:33 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-19 17:27 -0700
Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 20:53 -0400
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Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-20 11:57 -0700
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Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-21 19:53 -0400
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Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2015-09-21 01:22 -0700
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Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-18 12:59 -0700
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